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Able to kickstart your college 12 months with enthusiasm and perception? Be part of Hallie Sherman on this episode of SLP Espresso Speak as she sits down with Jennifer Tillock, a devoted teletherapist with a wealth of expertise working with older college students. On this dialog, Jennifer shares her journey from conventional remedy to teletherapy, providing useful insights on tips on how to maintain literacy-based studying thrilling and interesting. Full of sensible suggestions and provoking tales, this episode is ideal for teletherapists, SLPs, and anybody trying to make a significant impression in speech remedy. Tune in for recent concepts and a dose of enthusiasm to kickstart your college 12 months!
This is what we discovered:
- Why literacy actions are game-changers for older college students.-
- Utilizing digital instruments like YouTube Learn Aloud and audiobooks to simplify teletherapy classes.
- Methods to assist college students perceive why they’re in speech.
- Ideas for displaying grace to your self and college students whereas sustaining participating, productive classes.
- Differentiating speech remedy from studying instruction and collaborating with literacy academics.
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TPT STORE: https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/store/mrs-speech
AMAZON: www.amazon.com/author/tillock-mrs.speech & www.amazon.com/author/jennifertillock
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00:00:00 Hallie: Hey there SLP, working with grades 4 by way of 12. New college 12 months, new you. Let’s not go into this college 12 months feeling overwhelmed and behind on paperwork. Let’s not fear about college students asking why they’re coming to speech. Let’s not have college students shrug of their shoulders and you saying, why am I right here? I do not wanna be right here. Let’s as a substitute have your college students excited to come back to speech, able to tackle the challenges you present and make huge progress in direction of their targets.
00:00:30 Hallie: If you’re able to make this college 12 months, the 12 months that you simply depart work promptly on the finish of the day, plan in an hour or much less per week and go into each session assured that your college students will grasp the session goals, then SLP Elevate is simply what you want to make this college 12 months a profitable one. Both go to slplevate.com or ship me a DM on Instagram with the phrase membership, C-U-L-B, and we are able to talk about if SLP Elevate is best for you and your college students. Now’s the time to get your time again. And now could be the time to get your college students excited to come back to speech. SLB Elevate is ideal for you.
00:01:14 Hallie: Welcome to SLP Espresso Speak, the podcast designed completely for speech language pathologists who work with older college students, grades 4 by way of 12. I’m your host, Hallie Sherman, your SLP behind Speech Time Enjoyable, the Speech Retreat Convention, and the SLP Elevate membership. And I am thrilled to deliver you conversations, methods, and insights that provides you with the jolt of inspiration that you simply want. Whether or not you are tuning in throughout your morning commute, on a break in between classes, and even throughout a well-deserved leisure time. I’m right here for you each week. Let’s do that SLPs.
00:01:55 Hallie: Hey, hey, and welcome to a different episode of SLP Espresso Speak. At the moment I’ve Jennifer Tillich right here, and we’re gonna be speaking all about working with older speech college students, working with them by way of teletherapy, and all of the enjoyable stuff that I do know you guys are gonna know, wanna hear extra about. So, Jennifer, welcome to the present.
00:02:13 Jennifer: Hello, thanks for having me.
00:02:15 Hallie: Inform everybody a little bit bit extra about your self and your SLP journey.
00:02:19 Jennifer: Properly, I began out working with elementary college children. And, you realize, I believed that is my area of interest. That is the place I should be. However the older I received after which I began having children and the older they received, the extra I simply, I actually loved the older elementary children the place we might really get into some like meat and potatoes.
00:02:45 Hallie: Completely.
00:02:46 Jennifer: And deal much less with the desirous to play a sport on a regular basis. After which I used to be, how do I say this? I used to be celebrated by getting to maneuver to a center college the place that they had too many children on the caseload as a result of I used to be so good at getting children off the caseload. And whereas coping with center college academics has its challenges, I actually loved the children.
00:03:22 Jennifer: I imply, we might have good conversations. We did not have, you realize, the difficulty staying of their chairs. And I simply actually loved what I might do with them. And I ended up bringing a few of these concepts to the youthful children on the elementary degree. And I discovered they will do that stuff. They may very well be doing these items. After which COVID hit, in fact, and I began doing teletherapy, form of a mixture since then. However final 12 months I utterly stop ties with the in-person setting and I grew to become a teletherapist and I’m loving it. I haven’t got obligation, I haven’t got academics conferences, I sit down and I do my job and I adore it. I imply I miss the hugs. Cannot say I do not miss the hugs, however I do love doing teletherapy.
00:04:27 Hallie: Aside from having the ability to do extra of what you like to do, what different elements of it do you like that folks may be stunned to listen to about?
00:04:38 Jennifer: I really feel like it’s simpler to include know-how into your remedy session. You already know, if you end up in particular person, the gadget type of turns into an leisure. And once you’re doing it as a teletherapy on daily basis, the children are used to that being their remedy device. And it simply, it feels prefer it’s simpler. I am not having to love flip the display throughout the desk in order that they will see, after which, you realize, contorting myself over the desk in order that I can nonetheless function. So, and since I…actually get pleasure from know-how. That simply is a extremely good match for me.
00:05:24 Hallie: I adore it. To bounce again about once you stated you understand that your youthful ones may gain advantage from a few of that literacy primarily based comprehension kind actions. Are you able to broaden extra on that? What did you want? What have been some aha moments that you simply had?
00:05:39 Jennifer: Properly, you realize, after I was in grad college, I do not know if that is what they explicitly taught, however what I received was do all these phrase lists, do synonyms, do antonyms, do classes. And after I moved to the center college, it allowed me to type of see the place these elementary college children are headed. And so I am like, they should be doing inferencing and all of those essential considering duties.
00:06:09 Jennifer: And the way higher to do this than to include literacy actions. So that they’re getting that little bump in studying too. Even when they are not good readers, they’re seeing that the print means one thing. And in order that’s after I began ensuring all of, even my articulation playing cards have the phrases outstanding in order that they will see the phrases. After which I can level out, okay, now here is your sound. What letter makes your sound? And simply actually incorporate literacy and every part.
00:06:47 Jennifer: However going again to the center college, I used to be handed down targets, in fact, however the children have been working with analogies and prefixes and suffixes. They usually needed to suppose and have these abilities to actually nail down issues. And so then I introduced that again to the elementary and we have been engaged on these inferences with decrease degree studying passages. I even received my third and fourth graders working with analogies and so they understood them and so they cherished them as a result of they have been like a sport. And you realize the extra skilled improvement I take, the extra I am realizing language is every part, which we already knew, however that implies that you need to educate language in every part. And one of the simplest ways to do this is thru literacy. In order that’s type of the place I’m right this moment.
00:07:49 Hallie: I like that. A query I get requested usually is, how do you not really feel like a studying trainer or a tutor? How do you differentiate your self as a speech pathologist? How did you do this in these moments to make your self really feel?
00:08:02 Jennifer: Working loads of the instances on the identical abilities that the studying trainer is engaged on. However I am approaching it, from a linguistic standpoint. And I feel within the good world situation, children would have each on a regular basis. I feel all children might use a speech pathologist on their little shoulder serving to them, proper? However yeah, it is just like the studying trainer could also be speaking about inferencing, however then she’s additionally speaking about phonics and she or he’s speaking about simply studying fluency. And right here I’m, I am actually focusing and honing in on that inferencing side.
00:08:50 Jennifer: Or perhaps the child does not want inferencing. Perhaps they want one other essential considering ability, like breaking down phrases in order that they will guess the which means to phrases they do not know. As a result of as I inform my children, there are all the time phrases that you do not know otherwise you’re not likely certain precisely what they imply. And also you simply, you make a guess. You do not cease and take a look at the dictionary as a result of who has time for that? You make a guess and also you go on. And when the children hear that typically I do not know phrases, I feel it type of provides them that little push that, Hey, it is okay to make educated guesses.
00:09:34 Jennifer: So, the literacy trainer and I, in my final in-person college setting, we labored very carefully with one another. We did share loads of the identical children and we had this dialogue about, you realize, we’re doing the identical factor. However the different factor I might say is normally the literacy academics are doing issues in a gaggle and the group strikes collectively. And I will type of individualize it a little bit as a result of my teams are smaller than hers. And so if she was seeing a child that was having an issue with a specific side, then I used to be in a position to deliver that in and simply actually give that child that little further push.
00:10:19 Hallie: I like that.
00:10:20 Jennifer: And plus, it makes remedy much less boring for me.
00:10:25 Hallie: [laughing] Sure, sure. And I adore it that you simply present that like you do not know what phrases. Me neither. Like that it is a life ability that you may’t know every part.
00:10:34 Jennifer: It’s a must to present children your struggles.
00:10:36 Hallie: My daughter right this moment, she’s fifth grade. She requested me like, what’s she was studying one thing? She’s like, what’s this for me? And I am like, I do not know. Use it in a sentence. How is it getting used? And she or he learn it to me. I am like, oh, it is like a kind of fabric or so. I do not even bear in mind what the phrase was. However then I used to be like, see, I used to be like, I did not know both till you get to make use of these methods. So I adore it that you simply’re displaying like these are actual life sensible issues which are gonna all the time be wanted. And it does not imply there’s one thing fallacious with them by needing them.
00:11:02 Jennifer: Precisely, precisely.
00:11:04 Hallie: I like that, I like that. What are a few of your favourite literacy based-like approaches or actions?
00:11:10 Jennifer: What I actually get pleasure from doing and the children actually appear to like them too is I do loads of the basic brief tales, as a result of children like The Inform-Story Coronary heart by Edgar Allan Poe, the children eat that up. I imply, they adore it. Any of these older tales with the twists, the children love these surprises. And it helps them develop that inferencing and predicting abilities. And they’re going to battle by way of a few of that older language in order that they will work out what is going on on.
00:11:51 Jennifer: I had one boy I dismissed final 12 months, and it’s simply, I virtually broke down crying as a result of he was so unhappy that he was being dismissed. And I used to be like, what are you going to overlook about speech? And he stated, the tales. And I am simply, that was such a, I can not even put a phrase to it. It was such a tremendous second. And so I promised him I might ship his mother my listing of tales.
00:12:19 Hallie: That’s superb.
00:12:21 Jennifer: So you realize, the children, they’ve the facility to take action rather more than we are likely to suppose they will, particularly since they’re seeing us for language and we predict, oh which means we have to type of make it simpler and do these straightforward, you realize, narratives and so they do not get pleasure from these and what you need to do is you need to discover one thing they get pleasure from. So the primary time I get a brand new pupil, one among my first questions is, what sort of books do you prefer to learn? And most of them will say, I do not prefer to learn.
00:13:01 Hallie: Yeah, that is a saying, nothing.
00:13:02 Jennifer: And I am like, I inform them, that is sensible. Studying’s arduous for you. We do not love to do stuff that is arduous. And so then I ask, what sort of motion pictures do you want to look at? And simply attempt to get, most of them actually get pleasure from, particularly in that center college age, they actually get pleasure from these horror tales. However, I can normally discover one thing that the children get pleasure from after which type of transfer on from there. And I give them decisions. I say, would you want to listen to a narrative a few man that murders one other man and goes loopy? Or do you need to hear a narrative about, let’s have a look at, about children and a gentleman on a prepare and the gentleman finally ends up entertaining the children with a narrative that the aunt hates? And you would be type of stunned what tales the children will decide.
00:14:00 Hallie: I like that.
00:14:02 Jennifer: And it is simple as a result of, you realize, these older tales are out of copyright. So you are able to do loads of issues with them that you simply won’t in any other case be capable to do.
00:14:14 Hallie: Do you’ve any methods for utilizing it by way of teletherapy?
00:14:17 Jennifer: You already know, I really, I take advantage of YouTube Learn Alouds or audio books. So much saves my voice as a result of studying all day, on daily basis, that is loads. So I will use YouTube Learn Alouds loads. And I attempt to decide those which have the phrases on the web page, however even in case you do not, they’ve the closed captioning. Some recordings do higher with closed captioning than others. After which I’ve additionally performed issues like copy the transcript and simply go from there or discover a copy on-line. What I am desirous to do is to make my very own model of a few of these ones that the children actually like and make it just a bit bit extra simplified, fashionable language, as a result of I feel I might get much more mileage out of it if the children weren’t struggling a lot by way of that older language.
00:15:18 Hallie: I like that. And that is one thing that you simply put within the work now and you will have it for…[crosstalk] Precisely. I adore it. You talked about you’ve a brand new tackle vocabulary intervention. Are you able to share a little bit bit extra about that?
00:15:33 Jennifer: So not solely do I, you realize, simply type of incorporate the vocabulary in with the literacy, I have been performing some skilled improvement and a big a part of it is by Katie Squires. And what I am studying is children, you realize you’ll be able to’t educate an entire listing and get the children up to the mark, proper? So what you want to do is you want to educate them tips on how to parse the phrases down, work out the meanings of the bottom and the prefixes and the suffixes, after which be capable to construct it again up and work out all of the phrases which are then associated.
00:16:18 Jennifer: So I actually like to make use of pterodactyl for example. As a result of till I took this class, I did not understand pterodactyl and helicopter are associated. So in case you take aside pterodactyl, you bought ptero and dactyl, proper? So ptero means wing and dactyl means fingers. So then you definitely attempt to discover one other phrase that has the ptero in it. Properly, har-la-cop-ter. Is that ptero?
00:16:56 Hallie: Attention-grabbing.
00:16:57 Jennifer: Now it is sensible. And now you see, oh, that is how phrases get associated. That is how new phrases get made. And it is about one thing that is type of attention-grabbing to the children. As a result of who does not like dinosaurs? Proper.
00:17:14 Hallie: So, so cool. And you may even have the scholars create their very own, dinosaur [crosstalk] or flying machine [crosstalk], like utilizing one thing. They’ll create their very own utilizing these totally different components. I like that.
00:17:27 Jennifer: And you realize, the extra connections you can also make to a phrase, the higher that pupil recordsdata that phrase away and may use it later. However it additionally helps shorten the pathway to some other new phrases they could encounter which will type of appear related.
00:17:49 Hallie: Find it irresistible. I adore it. I like their pursuits and issues which are motivating to them. I like that.
00:17:55 Jennifer: Properly, if it is one thing that made me go, oh, that is type of cool. Share it, proper?
00:18:03 Hallie: Yeah, like, I like that. I like that. And displaying your college students the way you had that aha second even. And present them like, look, like this was new info to me. Like my thoughts was blown too, like…
00:18:14 Jennifer: It is 48 years previous after I discovered this.
00:18:17 Hallie: I used to be this years previous. Like, what is the phrase? Like, I used to be this many days previous or?
00:18:21 Jennifer: Yeah, identical to these YouTube.
00:18:25 Hallie: I like that. I adore it simply making it issues related to them and motivating to them and displaying them how you’re utilizing this info. And it is simply, you are all the time in search of methods to make issues related for the scholars, particularly the older ones.
00:18:38 Jennifer: That is the massive factor is I, you realize, typically I will have children and so they’re simply, you realize, they are not placing within the effort. And you are like, do you even know why you are in speech? They do not. They do not know why they’re in speech. They have been simply instructed to point out up and do stuff. Even with the little children, they should know why they’re there and why, what we’re engaged on is beneficial. And if they do not really feel that, then perhaps we have to modify our targets a little bit bit. Give them enter, even from an early age.
00:19:14 Jennifer: You already know, we’ve these transition conferences, however these college students are virtually out. We want enter from the very begin. Kindergarteners, preschoolers can decide among the phrases they need to work on. And the extra relevance it has for them, not solely are you going to not need to combat a lot to get the work performed, however it may join higher.
00:19:40 Hallie: So, so true. Might be such a problem to get them to need to be there after which to need to work arduous, particularly as they’re extra conscious that issues are arduous for them. We’ve got to keep in mind that they’re conscious at a youthful age that issues are getting difficult for them. So that they have so a few years of being conscious of this.
00:19:59 Jennifer: And you consider if college’s arduous for you, that is seven hours of your day sitting there doing stuff that is arduous. And…you realize, we’ve a tough time doing that as an grownup.
00:20:16 Hallie: So, so, so true.
00:20:18 Jennifer: Simply having a little bit little bit of empathy, you realize, actually put your self in your pupil’s sneakers and also you’re considering, there is not any approach I might do that right this moment.
00:20:29 Hallie: What would you inform your youthful self that you simply want you knew once you began working with the older college students?
00:20:36 Jennifer: Properly, again on the very starting, I want that I had instructed myself, graduating from masters, from graduate college, that it is okay to not know. It is okay for different academics to know you do not know the reply proper now. It is okay in your children to know you do not know the appropriate reply proper now. After which what you do together with your pupil is you present them how you discover out.
00:21:06 Hallie: Love that.
00:21:07 Jennifer: I am very keen about displaying children the place our struggles are and the way we address them as a result of most of our youngsters suppose, oh, I will be a grown-up after which every part’s simply hunky dory. And life isn’t like that. We’re all the time going to have struggles. It is simply that versatile considering and progress mindset that we maintain listening to a lot about.
00:21:36 Hallie: And so ought to we have to remind ourselves, to have that for ourselves as properly, and never simply anticipate it for our college students. I like that.
00:21:44 Jennifer: Sure, I used to be in all probability 15 years into the job earlier than I took that stress off of myself to all the time have an ideal session. And I discovered, I loved remedy extra, my college students loved remedy extra, and I really received extra performed. So..
00:22:05 Hallie: Love that. Taking the stress off, and other people listening like in case you’re first new within the subject or perhaps in graduate college or perhaps one, two, three years in, it is okay. We have all been there. We have all felt that stress. We have all needed issues to be good and it is okay. I like that you simply lastly gave your self permission.
00:22:26 Jennifer: And you realize, the children, as soon as they see that, they offer you a lot grace. I imply, children are among the most forgiving creatures on the market.
00:22:39 Hallie: Oh, yeah. I imply typically I prefer to name you out on it.
00:22:43 Jennifer: Sarcasm is one hundred percent legitimate.
00:22:46 Hallie: And it is language. Which means they’re taking part they listened.
00:22:49 Jennifer: Hey, it is non-literal language.
00:22:52 Hallie: Say there’s all the time a teachable second that we are able to make the most of in our profit. Thanks Jennifer, so, a lot. Is there the rest that you simply want to be sure that everybody listening hears and is aware of and understands and wherever’s a knowledge that you simply’d prefer to ship them on their approach with?
00:23:08 Jennifer: Simply give your self grace and make it one thing you get pleasure from doing together with your children as a result of your enthusiasm feeds into them.
00:23:20 Hallie: I like that, I like that. I all the time finish my episodes with a joke as a result of jokes construct rapport and so they’re very language-based.
00:23:26 Jennifer: I like that, I’ve a joke of the day too.
23:29 Hallie: And since this episode is airing in February, I figured this one will probably be applicable. How did the cell phone proposed to his girlfriend?
00:23:39 Jennifer: Ooh, I have not heard that one. I do not know.
00:23:42 Hallie: He gave her a hoop.
00:23:44 Jennifer: Pfft! [laughing] Find it irresistible.
00:23:50 Hallie: However I am saying my corny dad jokes, guys. [crosstalk] I like each Monday so you’ll be able to steal them and use them together with your college students. You’ll be able to take the credit score for them. I’ll by no means know. I did not write it myself both. Thanks to the Google Web. I discover my corny jokes. Thanks, Jennifer. The place can everybody study extra about you and every part you need to provide?
00:24:12 Jennifer: I do have a weblog. It’s mrsspeechonline.blogspot.com.
00:24:20 Hallie: Superior, we could have hyperlinks within the present notes for every part. Thanks, Jennifer, so, a lot. Till subsequent week, everybody, keep out of hassle.
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