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Prepare for an additional thrilling brew of SLP Espresso Speak! This week, Hallie sits down with Marsha Pinto, a proud introverted SLP, who’s right here to show that being a quiet skilled is nothing wanting a superpower. Marsha, a speech therapist with the San Jose Unified Faculty District in Northern California, primarily works with autistic college students, in addition to these with selective mutism and apraxia. She’s a well-recognized face on native information stations, the place she shares her experience on pediatric speech and language growth, and he or she’s additionally a seasoned convention speaker, advocating for introverted college students. Because the founding father of the non-profit “Softest Voices,” Marsha is devoted to selling higher acceptance of introverts.
Marsha opens up about her profession journey, discussing how she finds stability as an introvert in a usually extroverted subject. She shares insights on how embracing quiet time may be your secret weapon in remedy. When you’ve ever thought that being an introvert would possibly maintain you again, assume once more—Marsha is right here to indicate you that it’s truly your best power!
This is what we discovered:
Right here’s what we discovered:
- How Marsha turned introversion into her SLP superpower.
- Why beginning periods with silence can increase focus and progress.
- Marsha’s technique for managing power to keep away from burnout.
- How introverts can ace interviews and join with out the anxiousness.
- How Marsha went from doubting herself to presenting at main conferences like ASHA!
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00:00:00 Hallie: Hey there SLP working with grades 4 by way of 12. New faculty yr, new you. Let’s not go into this faculty yr feeling overwhelmed and behind on paperwork. Let’s not fear about college students asking why they’re coming to speech. Let’s not have college students shrug of their shoulders and taking a look at you saying, why am I right here? I do not wanna be right here.
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00:01:15 Hallie: Welcome to SLP Espresso Speak, the podcast designed completely for speech language pathologists who work with older college students, grades 4 by way of 12. I’m your host, Hallie Sherman, your SLP behind Speech Time Enjoyable, the Speech Retreat Convention, and the SLP Elevate Membership. And I am thrilled to carry you conversations, methods, and insights that gives you the jolt of inspiration that you simply want. Whether or not you are tuning in throughout your morning commute, on a break in between periods, or rest time. I’m right here for you each week. Let’s do that SLPs.
00:01:55 Hallie: Hey, hey, and welcome to a different episode of SLP Espresso Speak. Right this moment I’ve Marsha Pinto right here speaking all about being an introverted SLP. Marsha, welcome to the present.
00:02:09 Marsha: Thanks, Hailey, glad to be right here.
00:02:11 Hallie: Inform everybody a little bit bit about your SLP journey.
00:02:14 Marsha: Yeah, so I am a reasonably new SLP. So I have been an SLP for about 5 years. I graduated in 2019 from Yeshiva College, the place I acquired my diploma in medical SLP. Now I at the moment work in colleges in San Jose. I have been working with youngsters with autism for about 4 years in our average to extreme school rooms. However lately I will be transitioning into a brand new position because the lead SLP in our district. So I am excited for that.
00:02:41 Marsha: After I’m not doing the common SLP stuff, I do go on completely different excursions across the nation the place I communicate on introverts in training, introvert SLPs, every thing about being an introvert. I am nonetheless taking a look at ASHA and in addition the California model of ASHA. After which I additionally do some information interviews normally round just like the again to high school time or throughout Autism Consciousness Month, simply bringing some good previous SLP recommendation on these subjects.
00:03:09 Hallie: How’d you get into this?
00:03:11 Marsha: Yeah, it is one thing I have been keen about. And I believe as a younger SLP, I believe, , the media and like, , interpreters, they wanted a voice that they’ll relate to. So I used to be like, that is what I need to do. And now that I am an SLP, I can, , lastly, , use my skilled diploma for one thing.
00:03:33 Hallie: Is it one thing I’ve to ask? Did you at all times establish as an introverted SLP or was it extra, or an introvert, or was it extra once you went into the career that you simply began feeling that extra aligned?
00:03:47 Marsha: Yeah, so I’ve at all times been an introvert for so long as I can keep in mind, similar to being in kindergarten and being like actually nervous and shy on my first day, not being that child who would really like speak to everybody simply, did not have essentially the most mates, so I might at all times favor to be by myself and like to do these quieter actions like writing. I used to be actually good at writing and would like to do it.
00:04:13 Marsha: So any solo actions is what I gravitated in direction of. And as I went on, I used to be mainly advised you want a profession that matches that persona. In order that goes into my complete journey of how I truly was discouraged from being an SLP.
00:04:31 Hallie: Oh my goodness, inform us a little bit bit about that. Like who discouraged you?
00:04:35 Marsha: Yeah, for certain. So I suppose in highschool, once you’re, , you are determining what you need to do together with your life, that is the place I, , I did some volunteer work at a neighborhood hospital in my city. And it was a type of issues the place you apply to those completely different jobs on the hospital volunteer work and so they sort of choose no matter is offered and no matter matches your resume. So I truly picked pathology.
00:05:01 Marsha: After which I used to be stunned after I acquired into speech pathology. I used to be like, what is that this? It is, is it, , pathology may be very completely different. And I used to be like, okay, I am going to attempt it out. Trigger I, , I knew I wished to do one thing in healthcare, however I did not precisely know what. So after I began the… I suppose you’ll be able to name it a volunteer position on the hospital. I did not know what I used to be moving into. So it began with this social abilities group. It was a preschool as a part of the county the place they noticed youngsters, I believe, below 4 for preschool, speech and language, and so they had like a social abilities group each day.
00:05:39 Marsha: So at first I wasn’t, I used to be like, I am undecided what I am doing right here. However as time went on, I actually associated to these children and sort of, , being not the child that wished to speak to others and having your dad and mom actually fearful about that. So I associated to that. After which I felt comfort, with the ability to consolation the dad and mom who have been fearful about their children not speaking and fearful about their future. So I associated to that and I used to be like, possibly I can do that as a profession and actually make a change for teenagers and fogeys who’re actually fearful about language abilities.
00:06:12 Hallie: I like that. What have been some challenges that you’ve got needed to face navigating the sphere as an introvert?
00:06:20 Marsha: Yeah, so I believe individuals in all types of professions, now that I’ve spoken at completely different medical conferences, educator conferences, the primary message I’ve associated to and others have associated to mine is that school college students, college students on the whole, are advised to enter professions that match their persona sort. Once we consider SLPs, we consider somebody, , you are actually speaking to your self to encourage that. You see this actually like sort A persona, actually energetic, actually extroverted.
00:06:52 Marsha: When plenty of professors and lecturers noticed my persona proper from highschool, they have been like, I do not assume that is the appropriate profession for you, to your persona. I do not know the way profitable you’ll be on this. And that went for like all management position I might take. Individuals have been hesitant with how profitable I may very well be in that position. So the primary message based mostly on these experiences I wished to share with lecturers face this as effectively, as a result of it is a position the place they’re speaking so much and medical doctors as effectively, is that you do not essentially must be that talkative physician or SLP to achieve success.
00:07:30 Marsha: These are additionally careers that that you must be a very nice listener, as a result of persons are coming to you with assistance on their math drawback, assist with their sickness, assist with their speech challenge, in order that they actually need somebody to take heed to what they are going by way of and actually assist them determine an answer to it.
00:07:48 Hallie: That was true. It is typically like an occupational hazard for us that we speak an excessive amount of and we’re not capable of get our shoppers, our college students to speak as a result of we’re speaking an excessive amount of. It is like, I take into account myself an extroverted introvert.
00:08:04 Marsha: Yeah, there’s plenty of these too.
00:08:06 Hallie: So I’d seem as extroverted, however internally, in my head, I am going like, oh my God, on a regular basis, like at all times consciously conscious and nervous. And so it is regardless of the place the way you classify your self, prefer it’s completely regular and relatable. And there is so many SLPs on the market that I am certain you’ve got skilled and spoken with. What we simply share some experiences that you’ve got heard and, , in your journey as chatting with others.
00:08:33 Marsha: Yeah, so my first like, , I suppose placing this out into the SLP world was in 2019 throughout my CF yr after I wrote an article on the ASHA chief about introverts. In order that was like, , the ASHA chief and ASHA on the whole had by no means had something on introverts. I used to be like, oh, so this may be, , one thing new. I am going to take a look at the waters. And it was truly successful, like a lot of successful {that a} former ASHA president, Dr. Elise McFarland reached out to me. And I used to be shocked as a result of, , you by no means consider ASHA presidents or anybody in a management place referring to that.
00:00:10 Marsha: However yeah, she’s been an excellent mentor and he or she’s actually associated to being an introvert and other people have been stunned to know that she was an introvert being an ASHA president as effectively. And since then I offered met a number of ASHA conferences and plenty of SLPs have simply associated to it and so glad that somebody’s lastly talked about it as a result of there’s the completely introvert SLP after which there’s the combination of, , such as you mentioned, the introvert extrovert SLP. So we acquired plenty of these individuals relating and simply individuals who weren’t certain whether or not they have been one.
00:09:41 Marsha: After which they realized, oh wait, that is why I have been feeling so burnt out from all of the socializing and the speaking from our jobs. So I believe it introduced plenty of consciousness to simply how a lot speaking and socializing we do. And lots of people understand like, oh, possibly it isn’t simply, , the workload that is working me out. Perhaps it is similar to the each day actions of the job as effectively.
00:10:03 Hallie: You speak a little bit bit extra concerning the burnout and the way you would possibly expertise it a little bit bit in a different way and the way you deal with it.
00:10:10 Marsha: Yeah, for certain. So lately, my displays have taken a distinct sort of flip, not in direction of extra centered on one thing known as quiet time and the way it may be helpful for remedy, for SLP, for lecturers simply utilizing it within the classroom for instructing. So what it is centered on is having that type of quiet time, similar to 5 or two minutes, it does not should be actually that lengthy in remedy, simply to permit like, as an instance you are in a college setting, college students are available from their noisy class and so they’re coming to the remedy room and so they simply cannot focus and also you’re questioning why.
00:10:47 Marsha: And analysis exhibits that noise brings out the stress, the struggle or flight response in us. And as people, even when we’re children, they’re nonetheless going by way of that. So simply beginning your remedy session or your classroom session with a couple of minutes of simply full silence. It actually helps college students or sufferers simply decompress from no matter they have been going by way of, the visitors from driving to your session or no matter they have been going by way of at dwelling. It simply permits them to simply be nonetheless within the silence, collect their ideas, be current within the setting they’re. And analysis has proven it has extra of a productive impact in remedy and in homework or the classroom on the whole.
00:11:34 Hallie: No, fascinating. That is so fascinating. Like extra than simply ourselves and what us as SLPs would possibly want, like being cognizant of what the scholars would possibly want and the sensory overload of simply transitioning into our speech remedy room. Like that is so fascinating. What would you say to somebody who’s like, effectively, I solely have half-hour. When am I having quiet time after I solely have half-hour with them? How do I’ve time for that?
00:11:56 Marsha: Yeah, so what I attempt to hone in on this concept is that it not solely advantages your college students, your sufferers, no matter, but it surely advantages you as a result of as SLPs, I can not consider one SLP that is advised me like they’ve sufficient time of their day. We’re at all times like going from one session to a different, , paperwork, writing our cleaning soap notes. So this time, it is like, it is time for us to similar to, , settle and say, , I am finished that session, I am on this session, . Simply a while to breathe between sufferers or shoppers. It is, , a while to simply decompress and be current.
00:12:32 Marsha: As a result of I really feel like plenty of us are simply excited about the subsequent factor at all times like, oh, I would like to put in writing notes on this. Oh, I’ve to complete that report or that IEP. So it is only a reminder for us to be current. And it simply offers us that quiet time, too, that we want.
00:12:48 Hallie: It is superb. What recommendation would you give to somebody who’s saying interviewing, networking, all of that’s actually worrying and there is plenty of anxiousness in relation to placing myself on the market for in search of the right place or assembly potential shoppers. What would you say to somebody who is absolutely fighting the networking and interviewing side?
00:13:09 Marsha: Yeah. So the humorous factor is on the, I believe these are ASHA or the CASHA convention that I spoke at, lots of people in HR, the recruiters from the gala’s that ASHA and CASHA have, got here to those displays as a result of they have been curious as a result of they mentioned like we have had plenty of these individual introvert personalities interview for our SLP roles, et cetera. And we do not know if we’re evaluating them the identical means.
00:13:35 Marsha: So what I actually attempt to hone in on my displays is sort of a completely different means of evaluating our externs in graduate applications, our CFs, in order that we’re not simply centered on how animated that SLP is of their session, however extra like have been they listening? Have been they taking a look at, , the issues that different individuals did not discover? Like possibly, , the coed with selective mutism was, , making an effort behind the classroom to speak.
00:14:03 Marsha: Perhaps she or he was on speaking, however these little issues and taking a while to recollect the small issues. Like, , Mr. Bob talked about one thing but final week about going to a baseball recreation and the therapist remembered that. So what we discover is that introverts are actually good with these small particulars, making these private connections and remembering these particulars and the listening half. So when I attempt to inform, , HR professionals and anybody who’s evaluating college students is that actually concentrate on these listening abilities as a substitute of, , simply how a lot they’re saying or doing.
00:14:38 Hallie: That is so superb. And as SLPs fighting these networking conditions, simply be aware that there is different methods of speaking. And is there any coping methods that you simply love to do going into a few of these conditions?
00:14:52 Marsha: So one of many issues that I additionally put in my presentation is understanding to handle your power and never your time. As a result of we dwell in a world the place we have now agendas, schedules, private journals, we’re at all times attempting to schedule as a lot as we will within the quick period of time that we have now in our day. We’re by no means actually advised, handle your power first, not your time.
00:15:12 Marsha: Perhaps you bought 4 hours of sleep and now you are anticipated to, , undergo a complete day of remedy. Clearly not as productive as if, , you had that sleep, you took that time off and now you are coming into this session, , with all this power. So I at all times inform SLPs like they should know what takes away their power and what, , builds their power.
00:15:35 Marsha: So for further root SLPs, possibly they’ll go to the ASHA conference and go to after events after which the subsequent day return to work and do all these periods and no drawback. However possibly for an additional SLP, they’re simply exhausted from someday of ASHA for the ASHA conference and so they’re like, I can not do that anymore. So understanding what your power stage is with socializing, understanding when to take a break and in addition understanding when to say no and understanding that that is okay.
00:16:02 Hallie: It is so useful. What recommendation would you give to somebody who’s saying, take a look at you, you are saying you are an introverted SLP, however you are presenting at ASHA and CASHA and all these massive conferences. How did you overcome this to place your self on the market? What would you say to somebody who’s like, I’ve so many nice concepts, however I am fearful that I can not put myself on the market like that?
00:16:21 Marsha: Yeah, that is an excellent query. Generally I do not know the way I do it myself. I am like… However I believe the bottom line is, like I mentioned, with introverts, we actually… I suppose after we’re keen about one thing, we actually put our power in direction of it. And I believe for me, what’s helped is also the writing side, having one thing ready, like displays are normally ready. So normally write down notes. So if you happen to’re that sort of individual, that is completely fantastic to put in writing down notes or to rehearse one thing beforehand.
00:16:52 Marsha: If you are going to an interview or going to a conference and also you wanna like, , the everyday apply in entrance of a mirror, how one can speak to somebody. So no matter helps you, I believe for introverts, if we put together for a state of affairs, it sort of helps us with the surprising.
00:17:08 Hallie: I like that. And I like that there is so many of those conferences, they’ve name for papers on their web sites. Anybody can apply. It is not like they’re looking for out presenters. It is obtainable to whoever has an excellent thought, can simply go in and apply to talk. And there is so many instruments, such as you mentioned, having the slides, having the notes in entrance of you, getting ready forward of time and understanding that you simply’re so passionate on the subject, like, and a lot and who you may be impacting by presenting. In order that’s so superb.
00:17:40 Marsha: Yeah, for certain. I am grateful, , ASHA associated to it and accepted it as a result of I do know they get plenty of completely different subjects, however yeah, in case you have, if you happen to assume a subject is loopy, it won’t be, so simply, , do not be afraid to place it on the market.
00:17:53 Hallie: I like that. Any final bit of recommendation for somebody who’s simply feeling unsure or feeling like they’ll use some little bit of consolation or recommendation? What would you give to somebody listening?
00:18:08 Marsha: Sure, I believe that is particularly wanted for lots of faculty college students. So I do communicate at native NSLAs for SLP school college students aspiring SLPs. And the primary concern is that they really feel like they’re professors, they’re lecturers do not assume they may very well be profitable SLPs as a result of being animated in a session is absolutely onerous for them. So I encourage them to actually communicate to their professors one-on-one and attempt to clarify to them, there’s completely different points of an SLP that may be profitable.
00:18:41 Marsha: Have a look at your writing abilities, your listening abilities, and type of negotiate with them that means. I am additionally comfortable to offer supplies. If SLP college students or SLPs want it as effectively, they’ll contact me.
00:18:53 Hallie: Properly, thanks. The place can they be taught extra about you and how one can attain you if they’ve questions?
00:18:59 Marsha: Yeah, to allow them to go to my web site softestvoices.com and so they also can comply with me on Instagram, which is softest_voices.
00:19:09 Hallie: Thanks so, a lot. That is so useful. Anybody who’s feeling like they can not relate or feeling unsure in sure conditions or feeling like they want that quiet time and whether or not or not that’s okay, it’s okay. And your college students can profit from it too. And I like that you simply mentioned concerning the power and understanding your personal power and understanding what you want and with the ability to simply advocate and simply do it. Take that breaks once you want it.
00:19:32 Hallie: Being an SLP is so worrying in itself and understanding what you want is so vital to forestall that burnout. Maintain going and maintain going with that keenness. So thanks a lot for becoming a member of us right here right now. Everybody try Marsha, try every thing she has to indicate, go to her web site, go see her on, do you might have any upcoming talking engagements?
00:19:50 Marsha: Nothing confirmed but, however presumably ASHA in Seattle. So…
00:19:58 Hallie: Okay, very, very thrilling. So positively go try one among our talking engagements and thanks a lot. I at all times finish my episodes with a joke as a result of jokes are enjoyable, these are poor and really language based mostly. It is not a quiz. Why is 2 plus two equal 5 like your left foot?
00:20:18 Marsha: Oh, I do not find out about that one.
00:20:20 Hallie: It is not proper.
00:20:21 Marsha: Oh, okay.
00:20:25 Hallie: I do not provide you with these guys. I Google corny jokes after which I simply repeat it out right here. However after that quiet time, if you happen to want a little bit to choose me as much as construct rapport together with your college students, these jokes are right here for you guys each week. And I’ll see everybody subsequent week on one other episode of SLP Espresso Speak. Thanks a lot.
00:20:45 Marsha: Thanks.
00:20:51 Hallie: Thanks a lot for tuning in to a different episode of SLP Espresso Speak. It means the world to me that you simply’re tuning in each week and getting the jolt of inspiration you want. You could find all the hyperlinks and data talked about on this episode at my web site, speechtimefun.com. Remember to comply with the present so you do not miss any future episodes.
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