Present Notes:
On this episode of SLP Espresso Discuss, Hallie sits down with Kassy Maloney—Orientation and Mobility Specialist and founding father of the Society of Distinctive Educators—to speak about what SLPs really want to know when working with college students who’ve visible impairments. Kassy shares sensible, real-world ideas for adapting your classes (even for those who don’t have braille or fancy instruments), why collaboration with TVIs and O&Ms is a game-changer, and the way small adjustments—like saying your title when coming into a room—could make a giant distinction. If supporting college students with visible impairments has ever felt intimidating, this convo will go away you feeling extra outfitted, extra related, and able to bounce in—no braille coaching required.
This is what we discovered:
- Attain out to the TVI and O&M specialist early—they can provide you fast ideas that save tons of guesswork.
- All the time say your title when coming into or leaving—it’s a small behavior that builds connection and readability.
- Use actual objects to convey ideas to life—it’s sooner, simpler, and simpler than making an attempt to reinvent your complete lesson.
- Skip hand-over-hand steering—supply your arm and discuss them by means of it as an alternative.
- Construct in additional wait time than you assume they want—it’s not hesitation, it’s processing.
- Test for background information—they is perhaps lacking primary ideas most children be taught by means of sight.
- Don’t guess on tactile instruments—discuss to the TVI to verify your variations match their studying type.
- No have to keep away from phrases like “see” or “look”—pure language is okay.
- You don’t have to be taught braille—simply concentrate on clear enter, artistic helps, and collaboration.
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00:01:17 Hallie: Welcome to SLP Espresso Discuss, the podcast designed solely for speech language pathologists who work with older college students, grades 4 by means of 12. I’m your host, Hallie Sherman, your SLP behind Speech Time Enjoyable, the Speech Retreat Convention, and the SLP Elevate membership. And I am thrilled to convey you conversations, methods, and insights that will provide you with the jolt of inspiration that you simply want. Whether or not you are tuning in throughout your morning commute, on a break in between periods, and even throughout a nicely deserved leisure time, I’m right here for you each week. Let’s do that, SLPs.
00:01:57 Hallie: Hey. Hey. And welcome to a different episode of SLP Espresso Discuss. Right now, I haven’t got an SLP, however I guess a few of you guys have had college students or may have college students in your caseload with visible impairments. I do know I’ve. One among my first few years within the area, I’ll always remember it. I had a pupil on my case line who was in fifth grade. She had autism, and she or he was blind. And what do we all know as SLPs? What was certainly one of our favourite methods to assist our college students with language impairments is giving them visible aids. And that was very, very difficult for me. So I am so excited to have my visitor, Kassy, right here right now to speak all about working with college students with visible impairments. Kassy, welcome to the present.
00:02:44 Kassy: Thanks a lot for having me. That is going to be such an awesome dialog.
00:02:49 Hallie: Inform everybody listening slightly bit about you and your function on the planet.
00:02:57 Kassy: what’s so enjoyable is that even numerous SLPs might not know what an orientation and mobility specialist is. So I will use some phrases in our dialog right now, however don’t be concerned. I’ll outline all the pieces that I say as quickly as I say it. We even have numerous acronyms within the VI world so I am going to clarify what these are. However I’ve been an orientation and mobility specialist for the previous seventeen years and I nonetheless am at the moment working towards. I’ve only a few college students presently. An orientation and mobility specialist is anyone who works with people who find themselves visually impaired to show them tips on how to know the place they’re in house, that is the orientation half, and to securely get to the place they wish to go, that is the mobility half.
00:03:43 Kassy: And I have been doing that, like I stated, for, gosh, seventeen years now. However in 2018, I stepped away from my full time job as a result of I began a convention for orientation and mobility specialists. It was a world convention all on-line, and I actually liked serving folks, and I liked serving our neighborhood, and I liked the conversations at this degree. Conversations with my college students are tremendous nice. ? And I like lesson planning and deciding what we will do.
0004:15 Kassy: However speaking about pedagogy and speaking about tips on how to assist your college students in the easiest way attainable and speaking about simply the evolution and a historical past of training and educators is de facto the place my candy spot is. And I at the moment personal a corporation known as the Society of Distinctive Educators, and we offer twenty first century instructing methods to all educators working with college students who’ve visible impairments.
00:04:42 Hallie: Wow. That’s so wonderful. I find it irresistible that you simply love educating others and provoking others. So in case somebody listening will not be absolutely conscious, what classifies somebody as a visually impaired? Is somebody utterly blind? Is it somebody who would simply restricted – I stated, like, what classifies somebody as visually impaired?
00:05:03 Kassy: That is truly actually fascinating as a result of it is determined by how outdated the individual is and who’s classifying them. So visible impairment in it of itself does not have a particular acuity quantity. So the acuity quantity is the 20 over no matter. 20 over 20 is the normed quantity, and it goes all the best way as much as 20 over 2,000, 8,000, after which into counts fingers. So there is not a particular quantity for that. What I’ll say, in your SLPs, is that if any pupil is having problem accessing their training, if they cannot entry their FAPE, their free and acceptable public training, then they may qualify as a pupil with a visible impairment. Nevertheless it’s truly all on a spectrum.
00:05:48 Kassy: I’ve had college students who can see very well throughout the day perhaps and even simply very well basically. They only have nystagmus, which implies that their eyes are jerky they usually transfer forwards and backwards. So it makes it very troublesome to learn, they usually simply want just a few lodging all the best way to that counts fingers that I talked about, after which much more so into no gentle notion and even I’ve had college students who haven’t any eyeballs. And so it is a full spectrum and a large gamut.
00:06:16 Hallie: And usually, I do know for me within the districts that I’ve labored in, the scholars that acquired these providers, it was like an company or like a BOCES or somebody from the skin. It wasn’t the district worker that got here in, and I’d see them, like, strolling across the constructing with them and strolling across the perimeter and doing the steps. Is that, like, your function, like?
00:06:38 Kassy: Yeah. Type of. Okay. Let’s break this down. We will begin all the best way from the again. We will go all the best way again. Alright. So we all know scientifically that 90% of what we be taught, we be taught by the way. Simply take into consideration, like, a child, proper, who’s watching their mother make a sandwich. They watch their mother make the identical sandwich for daily for 5 years. The mother goes to the cabinet, will get out the bread, they go to the fridge, will get out the jelly. Wherever you retain your peanut butter, they get it from there. This child watches all of these items occur and has then an understanding of the place peanut butter and jelly sandwich comes from. The bread is already pre-sliced. That is the place you get spoons from. That is what a spoon is. That is the way you scoop. All of that within the 5 minutes.
00:07:24 Kassy: Take into consideration the entire expertise, the entire issues that we use our imaginative and prescient for that our college students with visible impairments do not have entry to. And so after they get to highschool, there’s numerous idea gaps that find yourself occurring. So we truly educate them not simply on the core curriculum, however the expanded core curriculum, which is a whole curriculum that is a framework only for college students with visible impairments to assist them turn out to be profitable at life as a result of they missed 90% of that studying.
00:07:56 Kassy: And that trainer that teaches them is usually a trainer of scholars with visible impairments. This can be a diploma that you’d get similar to your SLP diploma out of your college. It is by means of the Division of Training. And, usually, the TVI is… is determined by how huge your college district is, however most TVIs are employed. There are W2 workers inside the college district, and there is usually a really small staff. Like, even right here in Austin, I believe the staff of TVIs and O&Ms is, like, 9 folks huge… like, 9 of them altogether for a giant college district of over perhaps 1,000,000 college students. So it is it is fairly small.
00:08:35 Kassy: However once you get right into a smaller college district, they do not have sufficient hours to even justify that FTE, and so we’re on contract. And orientation and mobility specialists are sometimes extra usually on contract as a result of we solely educate a type of 9 areas. And so, yeah, we is perhaps a W2 worker inside your college district. We would even be contract. However both approach, until your pupil goes to a residential college, we might be itinerant, which suggests we’re popping in for perhaps thirty minutes at a college every week, each two weeks, a month. And so that you may see an orientation and mobility specialist strolling silently behind a pupil or cane expertise or doing stairs or one thing of that nature. Yeah.
00:09:21 Hallie: I needed to ask since I all the time simply see them popping out and in, and I by no means had that chance to have that dialogue with them. Like, hey. Like, who do you’re employed for? Or no matter. The place did you come from? So it is so fascinating. And I like that you simply even stated with the peanut butter and jelly, like, there’s a lot – and that is language, and that is issues that college students want. So what ought to an SLP know that they – unexpectedly, they’ve a brand new pupil on their case, so perhaps they got here in from one other city, they got here in from one other grade or one other constructing, they’ve a visible impairment. What are some issues they should know?
00:09:54 Kassy: I believe this can be a actually good query as a result of we even have an epidemic of visible impairments occurring proper now. Medically, if you concentrate on it, numerous infants are being saved extra, and extra advanced infants are being saved. They usually include communication points. They arrive with SLP wants. And oftentimes, they could additionally include a visible impairment that goes together with that. So the very first time that you’ve got a pupil with a visible impairment, listed below are only a few issues so that you can know.
00:10:24 Kassy: Firstly is greeting, speaking. How do you discuss to an individual with a visible impairment? It is all the identical. So simply loosen up. Take that stress off your self. The one factor that I’d say is make it possible for once you stroll right into a room otherwise you go away a room otherwise you stroll right into a dialog otherwise you go away a dialog, that you simply simply make that announcement. For you guys, for our SLPs born within the 1900s, you may keep in mind common telephones the place you needed to name they usually could not see your caller ID. Simply act like that. Like, act prefer it’s a landline.
00:10:59 Kassy: Now for those who by no means lived in a world the place you needed to say your title, then this is perhaps slightly trickier for you, and, you are most likely higher at expertise than I’m, however simply faux such as you’re on a landline and that they do not know who you’re. All you must do is say, hello, Johnny. It is Ms. Kassy. How are you right now? After which once you’re carried out speaking with Johnny, say, okay, Johnny. I will go away now. Quite simple issues like that. You could possibly say the phrase see. You could possibly say look. You… don’t be concerned about something of that nature.
00:11:30 Kassy: The subsequent factor after that’s going to be how will you get round. And for that, I’d say discuss along with your TVI and your O&M. You talked about that you simply did not get an opportunity to speak to them, and I believe that that is so true. We dwell in a world the place we’re all so rushed and we’re so siloed. And it is not likely anyone’s fault. We’re all doing our greatest. However for those who begin to have a pupil with a visible impairment in your caseload, do not attempt to, like, sort out all of it by yourself. Simply ship the textual content. Simply name. Simply attain out by way of electronic mail to the TVI and the O&M as a result of they need you to succeed.
00;12:13 Kassy: And as a rule, they’re going to be capable of provide you with that individualized info for that pupil since you wish to make it possible for if the scholar must be guided, which is, like, they’re going to maintain on to your arm, that you simply’re doing that safely. In the event that they should be utilizing their cane, that you simply’re doing that safely. In case you have a pupil who can see throughout the day or can see when it is brilliant out, however they cannot see at nighttime, and that occurs fairly usually or particularly round adolescence, you should know that in order that you do not simply do the traditional factor of strolling right into a darkish classroom the place your eyes alter after which they’re frozen. So little issues of that nature, I’d say attain out to them.
00:12:55 Kassy: The subsequent factor that you simply wish to just be sure you’re doing, I’d say, is to make it possible for your classes, they do not should look the identical, however you may maintain the identical performance. And so once you’re fascinated about adapting your classes, you is perhaps used to utilizing, like, playing cards. Proper? However perhaps you continue to use playing cards, however perhaps you make it tactile, or perhaps you might have a change of some kind, or perhaps you might have the scholar carry their arm as an alternative of figuring out phrases. Get artistic, after which, once more, talk with the opposite staff members as a result of they need you to succeed, they usually’ll be capable of assist form your instruction to fulfill these visible impairment wants.
00:13:44 Hallie: I will share what I did with this pupil, and I need you to inform me, was I heading in the right direction or not. As a result of this was, like, pre-Pinterest, pre-Lecturers Pay Lecturers, and yeah. I went to Michael’s and since I believe this was even pre Amazon, and acquired puff letter stickers. And I put it on index playing cards. And I’d put, like, my visible of, like, if we had been engaged on classes. I imply, they had been sorting classes. I put the totally different classes on index playing cards with the puff stickers. So as an alternative of getting all the pieces brailled as a result of I did not have entry to the time or the sources or the know-how, I can not learn braille. So was this the fitting technique that I did?
00:14:30 Kassy: Lovingly, it is not the one which I’d have chosen. Oh, my goodness.
00:14:37 Hallie: I imply, this was, like, seventeen, eighteen years in the past. Okay? Like that is, like, my third yr within the area, so let’s give me slightly little bit of slack right here.
00:14:44 Kassy: I am providing you with all of the slack. The factor that I wish to congratulate you on is making an attempt and considering exterior the field. And it is sensible why you’ll assume that since you see the letter visually, so they may be capable of really feel the letter visually. It actually is determined by their studying media. And that is why I counsel speaking to the TVI as a result of in the event that they’re utilizing raised letters as their studying media, perhaps, it is simply that spatially, like, when you concentrate on how the mind is wired – and also you would not know this until, like, you spent $30 grand and 5 years in school, proper, to know this. So it is okay. However spatially, letter recognition tactually is de facto laborious. That is why Braille exists. As a result of if everyone might try this, it could be a lot simpler. They might. We would not want Braille. So it is sensible as to why you probably did it. The important thing right here is that you simply tried.
00:15:44 Hallie: I give myself props for making an attempt. I imply, hey, there was no Googling what to do with the scholar, and I used to be break up in two totally different constructing. So, like, I did not even have the time to collaborate along with her VI trainer and stuff like that.
00:15:59 Kassy: And also you’re speaking quite a bit in regards to the lack of time. You might be hitting the nail on the top. That’s… time is our greatest useful resource. And as lecturers, we do not have numerous time. And I do know numerous lecturers assume that, you realize, cash is our greatest useful resource as a result of we receives a commission a specific amount each month, blah blah blah. However, actually, it is time. And for those who’re not in that very same constructing, it may be actually tough to achieve out. In order that, you realize, you bought to offer your self grace and perceive that youngsters have numerous neuroplasticity. Like, that child was tremendous.
00:16:36 Hallie: So now SLPs have a tendency to love to make use of – I imply, we do not love worksheets, however each ones… we want visible aids, we wish to have some form of visible exercise. How can SLPs with restricted time, restricted sources, adapt their supplies and instruction to have the ability to incorporate this pupil within the group with the opposite college students?
00:16:58 Kassy: I’d say two issues, utilizing actual objects as a result of you may usually get an actual object, and it does not take as a lot time than to make, like, a tactile image. However for those who’re having a dialogue or perhaps studying a ebook, proper, a couple of seaside ball, they go to the seaside, get a seaside ball. Get perhaps some sand in a bucket or one thing of that nature to assist make these intangible ideas tangible. That is what speech is. It is taking the intangible and making it tangible and use that.
00:17:30 Kassy: The opposite one was if you can also make it auditory and that is all that you’ve got, then make it auditory. But when you will get some objects, get some objects as nicely. The opposite factor that I’d say is search for idea gaps. As a result of similar to I stated, your college students are going to have numerous idea gaps simply from not seeing, not understanding what’s round. And since college students with visible impairments usually be taught half to complete the place folks with imaginative and prescient be taught complete to half, they could not even know that there is a steering wheel within the automotive in the event that they’ve by no means come throughout it. So simply do numerous checking for understanding, and then you definitely’ll have a greater concept of what their wants are.
00:18:09 Hallie: I like that. I imply, we so usually have to test for background information for all of our college students. So simply going slightly deeper, and I by no means thought in regards to the elements versus the entire. That is so, so fascinating. What are another widespread modifications to remember to maintain them engaged and studying and with no need braille?
00:18:28 Kassy: Yeah. Effectively, I’d say for those who do have entry to a braillist, attempt to get that over to them and see if you can also make the time to take action if their pupil is utilizing Braille. I believe it is lower than 2% of scholars with visible impairments use Braille, so you ought to be tremendous with that. In case you have a 3D printer or a swell machine at your college or within the district, see if you are able to do that. Plenty of instances, as a result of we will not simply, like, write one thing on a bit of paper, we do have to plan slightly bit additional upfront. And I promise that the ROI is 100% price it. As lecturers, particularly as itinerant or associated service one-on-one lecturers, we will get by with, like, planning on the fly. Let’s examine how this lesson goes as a result of we’ve to. We’ve to adapt.
00:19:20 Kassy: However when you have a set of supplies and you’ve got issues that you’ve got both already made or the trainer has them, like, see for those who can simply take issues from the classroom that they are already utilizing and simply take it with you and produce it again. Once more, that communication between our beforehand siloed companions will assist quite a bit.
00:19:45 Hallie: And I am simply considering with SLPs, we love when classes get dragged out as a result of then we do not want as a lot stuff. So do not be afraid of the extra you are speaking and explaining and bringing issues to life orally. You want much less stuff.
00:20:00 Kassy: Yeah. And with SLP, I imply, you do need them speaking. Proper? So one of many issues that I’ve seen with numerous my college students is that they want much more wait time than I’d usually even assume. So begin sitting in your arms. Write your immediate along with your tongue on the roof of your mouth earlier than you say it simply to offer them slightly bit additional time, and perhaps that is all that they want. So let me ask you, are you… once you guys are in school, what supplies are you usually utilizing?
00:20:39 Hallie: It is a… in our speech rooms, we’re merely both utilizing… we would use, books. We would use article – relying on the age of the scholars. We would use process playing cards. We would use sorting, like, actions. We would use video games. We love utilizing video games in our speech room. So extra we like utilizing manipulatives, relying on the objective and want at hand. We do like playing cards, stuff like that.
00:21:06 Kassy: So there are literally… however there are literally suppliers which you can most likely get issues from the place they’re already brailled. And you may lookup APH, American Printing Home, has quota funds. You possibly can undergo your college. I imply, in fact, this forms, this takes some time, in fact. However you may undergo your college and get quota funds after which be capable of order some issues at no cost. Or you would lookup issues locations like Maxi Aids might need brailled or giant print UNO playing cards. You may even be capable of discover Etsy shops with lecturers and purchase issues straight from them in order that approach you are not accountable for making it.
00:21:48 Hallie: Attention-grabbing. I’ve seen the Braille UNO playing cards. Are there some other – as a result of we do love incorporating video games into our speech room. Is there some other sport variations or variations or issues that we will be wanting into if we wish to incorporate video games with these college students?
00:22:04 Kassy: I believe it simply is determined by what your wants are, and everyone’s going to be individualized. And so simply search the Web as a result of that is going to have a significantly better understanding of what is obtainable proper now. There… I haven’t got something that is like, oh, this Monopoly sport has braille, and I haven’t got something like that. It actually simply, like, distributors come and go fairly actually because they’re so small, such a small area of interest. However when you have the flexibility to even get, like, Braille playing cards or ask the TVI that will help you with that, they will usually do it inside every week and get it again to you, after which you might have the supplies that you should adapt your individual video games. After which as soon as the supplies are made, the supplies are made. Like, then you may have all the degrees of scholars. And what I’d counsel is once you’re adapting supplies, make them each giant print and braille in order that you do not have to do it once more.
00:23:00 Hallie: Love that. So, so sensible. What are some widespread fake pas in interacting with folks with visible impairments and what to do as an alternative?
00:23:09 Kassy: Oh my gosh. This can be a nice query. Keep in mind on the very starting of our dialog once I urged saying your title? After which once you meet anyone after which saying your title after you allow, we’re simply letting them know. One factor that I see occur quite a bit could be very nicely which means, and it is a-okay for those who’ve carried out this prior to now. However we will go the alternative approach now as a result of now you will know higher. Is that this sport that lecturers play with my college students with visible impairments the place it is the who is that this sport? And, like, the place they may stroll as much as the scholar or the scholar will see them within the hallway and say, oh, who is that this? Are you able to think about how scary that should be for a child? What occurs for those who get it improper? It is like, what trainer?
00:23:53 Hallie: Like like, yeah. Guess my age. They usually’re like, oh my god.
00:23:59 Kassy: Like, no. I am not going to try this. Like, you are 21. Like, oh my god. No. It would be so scary particularly as a result of adults have a lot energy over the scholars. The opposite factor that I’d say is oftentimes, we predict that college students cannot do one thing simply because there’s slightly little bit of lag time or or as a result of they’re demonstrating discovered helplessness. Like, let’s be actual. Our college students know who will make them use their expertise and who’s both in a rush or does not know that they’ve these expertise or no matter. And they also may simply… what I name it hitch a journey. They may simply, like, seize onto your arm and be like, I haven’t got eager expertise. I do not know the place I am going.
00:24:42 Kassy: I’d extremely advocate that you simply count on the scholars to stroll as independently as attainable. Sure. Typically that implies that you might need to inform them, oh, the lavatory is correct there. We’ve to show left as an alternative of turning proper or assist appropriate them in the event that they go the improper approach. And it’d take slightly bit extra time, however that is going to assist improve their independence tenfold relatively than you simply doing it for them.
00:25:13 Kassy: One other factor is pushing and pulling and hand over hand. It was that we had been taught as lecturers to place our hand over our college students’ arms and, like, convey them to no matter. However what that does is that decreases our college students’ autonomy. So what we wish to do is convey our hand… if we wish to present them one thing tactually, convey our hand beneath our college students’ hand and assist them do it that approach.
00:25:45 Kassy: Additionally, as an alternative of pushing and pulling, college students are, like, shifting their our bodies – particularly SLPs. You guys might not have this situation since you’re most likely so good with phrases. However regular folks have this situation, so I will say it. Simply inform them the place you need them to go or have them maintain on to the again of your elbow prefer it’s a Coke can, and then you definitely simply stroll. And that is known as information method, and anyone can try this.
00:26:14 Hallie: So, so fascinating, particularly as a result of, like, the hand over hand factor is one thing that has modified additionally with the autistic neighborhood as nicely with the autonomy. So it is so fascinating to consider it additionally, these visually impaired college students as nicely.
00:26:29 Kassy: Yeah. And possibly for each neighborhood. And as we develop, we will count on our college students to develop as nicely. And, I imply, we as in, like, a tradition, we now perceive that, like, grabbing anyone takes away numerous their management, and most antecedents are as a consequence of lack of management. If there’s going to be a destructive habits, it is almost certainly as a consequence of lack of management. So we will take the scholar’s hand, which is for our kiddos, how they expertise the world, then we’re, like, principally, like, placing them in a cage. ? If somebody had been to place you in a cage after which stated, okay. Do X, Y, Z, you may get slightly irritated too.
00:27:11 Hallie: I find it irresistible. Thanks so, a lot. Every other bit of recommendation or tip that we’ve not mentioned but that you simply really feel like SLP ought to concentrate on for working with these college students?
00:27:23 Kassy: I believe with all lecturers working with any type of pupil and perhaps even all folks coping with any type of individual, it is not about perfection. It is solely about taking a step ahead each single day. Take one thing new. Take this podcast. Analysis one thing. Go have a dialog along with your TVI. You are welcome to ask me questions on Instagram when you have a pupil. I am comfortable that will help you out, however you do not have to be good. Simply should take a step ahead.
00:27:55 Hallie: I like that. Thanks so a lot. The place can everybody be taught extra about you and all the pieces you must supply?
00:28:03 Kassy: We’re comfortable to assist help you. All you must do is locate us at exceptionaleducators.us, and that’s all over the place, I consider. exceptionaleducators.us.
00:28:12 Hallie: Thanks so a lot, Kassy. I all the time finish my episodes with a joke as a result of jokes construct rapport they usually’re very language based mostly. So why do fish wish to eat worms?
00:28:25 Kassy: That is so humorous. Is it a language based mostly query? It is not a science based mostly query.
00:28:31 Hallie: [inaudible] They’re corny.
00:28:35 Kassy: I do not… don’t know. Wait. Fish, worms? I do not know.
00:28:41 Hallie: As a result of they get hooked on them.
00:28:44 Kassy: Oh, that is so cute. I like that.
00:28:48 Hallie: My corny dad jokes are right here each week for you guys so you may steal them and use them along with your college students, construct rapport, however then you may focus on the language about it and the vocabulary and the a number of which means and all that enjoyable stuff. So thanks, Kassy. Everybody go test her out on Instagram, our web site. And when you have any questions for her, let her know. However till subsequent week, everybody, you realize I am right here with you each single week. I’ve not missed a Monday since, I do not know, 2019 once I launched this podcast. So you may assure that subsequent Monday, I might be right here as nicely. Till subsequent week, everybody. Keep out of hassle.
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