Present Notes:
On this sincere and energizing episode of SLP Espresso Speak, Hallie chats with Nathalie Lebrun—SLP, speaker, co-host of LeadSpeak Podcast and the voice behind LifeSpeak—about working with transition-age college students. Nathalie shares how she went from post-acute rehab desires to main a large school-based SLP group, and the way she found the often-overlooked position SLPs can play in serving to college students ages 18–22 construct real-world communication abilities. From Uber coaching to poker classes to letting go of good information, Nathalie retains it actual about what it means to be a communication coach, not only a therapist. When you’ve ever felt caught along with your older caseload or uncertain how you can prep college students for all times past faculty, this dialog will depart you impressed—and able to rethink your strategy.
This is what we discovered:
- SLPs are important in supporting college students past lecturers
- Actual-world communication abilities ought to be a remedy focus, particularly for older college students
- Practical progress > good information assortment—particularly in transition work
- Collaboration and creativity are key to significant outcomes
- Begin desirous about transition early—even in elementary faculty
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Podcast: https://www.lifespeakllc.org/leadspeak-podcast
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00:01:17 Hallie: Welcome to SLP Espresso Speak, the podcast designed solely for speech language pathologists who work with older college students, grades 4 by 12. I’m your host, Hallie Sherman, your SLP behind Speech Time Enjoyable, the Speech Retreat Convention, and the SLP Elevate membership. And I am thrilled to carry you conversations, methods, and insights that provides you with the jolt of inspiration that you simply want. Whether or not you are tuning in throughout your morning commute, on a break in between classes, and even throughout a properly deserved rest time, I’m right here for you every week. Let’s do that, SLPs.
00:01:58 Hallie: Hey. Hey. And welcome to a different episode of SLP Espresso Speak. As we speak, we’re gonna be speaking all about transition companies. Particularly these of you working with the secondary college students, that is one thing that I do know you’re gonna love and wanna be taught extra about. So I’ve a particular visitor who’s an professional and obsessed with this. So, Nathalie, welcome to the present.
00:02:20 Nathalie: What’s up, Hallie? How are you? Thanks for having me.
00:02:22 Hallie: In order this… properly, as we’re recording this episode, we’re recording this episode in Might although this episode will not be airing proper now. It is… we’re airing extra over the summer time, however my episode with Nathalie on, like, her LifeSpeak podcast is airing proper now. So it’s sort of enjoyable that we’re chatting when my episode aired on her podcast. However, Nathalie, for these listening, inform everybody about you and your SLP journey.
00:02:45 Nathalie: Yeah. For certain. Effectively, I am tremendous pleased to be right here. I introduced my espresso for espresso discuss. I am carrying my purple T shirt for you, Hallie.
00:02:53 Hallie: Find it irresistible.
0002:54 Nathalie: You recognize, I had the nice pleasure of assembly you in actual life just some weeks in the past in San Antonio, which was, like, tremendous enjoyable. So I am simply actually grateful to be right here. I suppose my journey to the place I am sitting at present is atypical and but very typical. The extra I discuss to totally different SLPs who work in numerous settings, the extra I discover out that there is an increasing number of SLPs which are coming into our occupation from simply, like, obtuse angles, which is so nice as a result of I believe it simply makes our occupation that rather more numerous and inclusive as a result of we’re coming in with totally different life experiences.
00:03:33 Nathalie: I believe it is vital for you and your neighborhood to know that I immigrated to United States after I was eight years outdated. So I am Canadian and my native language is French. And so after we immigrated right here after I was eight, I used to be put into an ESL classroom for half of the day right here in Houston, Texas with a trainer that didn’t converse French in any respect. And I used to be in a room full of youngsters from all around the world. So we had youngsters from India. We had youngsters from totally different nations in Africa, and also you had a few French talking Canadians, and we needed to be taught English by the ESL course of. So I believe that is vital to your neighborhood to know as a result of I believe, like, we’re all the time attempting to be extra inclusive with the oldsters that we serve, the children and the adults and the households that we serve. And in order that’s my background in terms of, like, language as being a bilingual particular person, that basically shapes quite a lot of the work that I do.
00:04:35 Nathalie: So quick ahead many, many, a few years, after I completed my diploma from the College of Texas at Austin, I used to be not a ComD main. I used to be not a speech language pathologist. I used to be simply in human relations, and I did not actually have a thought of what I wished to do. It was both taking a job promoting computer systems or working in monetary companies. And I used to be similar to, properly, what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? So I ended up taking the job in monetary companies, which was a very cool expertise as a result of this firm networked professionals collectively.
00:05:13 Nathalie: So we might have purchasers that may come to us and say, hey. I am researching how you can develop the newest and biggest podcast microphone. And my job can be to search out consultants out on the planet to be like, hey. Are you able to come advise my shopper on how you can construct that microphone? So actually shortly in that point and house, I obtained quite a lot of actually nice expertise of simply chatting folks up and actually discovering their strengths and their passions, after which attempting to see if they might be an excellent match for my shopper. I did that for a pair years, and I used to be 25 on the time, and I simply actually could not see myself doing this job endlessly. It was very aggressive, very cutthroat. I used to be working approach, approach past forty hours per week.
00:06:05 Nathalie: And so, fortunately, by an odd collection of coincidences, I ended up going again to UT in Austin to do my leveling program for speech language pathology. And the very first time I noticed a speech remedy session occur, I used to be similar to, oh, that is tremendous cool. Such as you inform me that I get to assist folks by enjoying like enjoyable video games with them and like actually impacting their life, like, signal me up. Like, let’s do that. And ever since then, I actually simply discovered, like, a house right here as a speech language pathologist in our occupation.
00:06:42 Nathalie: Then quick ahead a pair extra years, it was time to do scientific fellowship after graduate faculty. Proper? And my hope, my dream was to discover a job within the submit acute TBI world. Proper? Like aphasia. Like aphasia all day, daily. And I actually could not discover a job at the moment in that house. And so I had had a very phenomenal externship web site supervisor at a constitution system right here in Houston. And she or he… after I noticed her do her remedy with the scholars, I am like, oh, that is the kind of SLP I wanna be after I develop up.
00:07:26 Nathalie: So I accepted their supply to go do my CF with them, and I stayed with them for 3 years. After which my then fiance, now husband, and I purchased a home within the suburbs of Houston. So we moved slightly bit additional out, after which I took a job being an SLP in our native faculty district. And after I interviewed with the coordinator on the time, she checked out my resume. She’s like, oh, you’ve grownup expertise. I am like, yeah. I do. And she or he’s like, oh, properly, you possibly can work with our transition age inhabitants. And I am like, what’s that? I’ve actually by no means heard of that earlier than. I am like –
00:08:08 Hallie: You didn’t study that in graduate faculty?
00:08:10 Nathalie: The place do they dwell? Like, what will we get to do? And the best way that was, like, positioned to me was, properly, they go to school, they usually nonetheless get speech remedy. And I am like, that is nice. Okay. I can do communication abilities for faculty. Like, I’ve by no means carried out that earlier than, however, like, I can determine one thing out. Proper? And after I…. truly, , rolled up on the primary day of faculty and I get to know the lecturers after which the scholars arrived, I am like, oh, it is greater than youngsters in search of school levels with IEPs. It is the entire spectrum of scholars with tremendous excessive stage of help wants the place their outcomes, their transition objectives was to dwell in some sort of group dwelling or maybe some sort of expert nursing facility, throughout youngsters that had been attempting to get accepted to a really sort of conventional four-year school to get their bachelor’s diploma.
00:09:09 Nathalie: So at that campus, we had been serving the entire spectrum of, totally different ranges of wants and totally different objectives and outcomes. So did that for a pair years, after which I had the chance to truly interview to grow to be the division head of our district, which after I heard the announcement that our boss was retiring, like, man, that appears like a horrible job. Like, that’s… , they… on the time, she had a group of, like, what, 50 speech language pathologists and assistants with no help. Like, she was it. I used to be similar to, man, that appears like a very tough job. Like, I do not know who would ever wanna take that.
00:09:49 Nathalie: And I obtained a telephone name on my approach dwelling from work in the future from one among my colleagues on the group, and she or he was like, hey. We expect that you need to go for the coordinator job. And I used to be similar to, who’s we and why do we predict that is a good suggestion? So went dwelling, after which I simply began, like, brainstorming. Like, if I used to be in this sort of, like, influential place, proper, the place I obtained to make selections for the group to higher their potential to serve college students, what would I do? And I ended up writing out, like, three pages of simply all these ideas and concepts and simply questions I had in regards to the division and the way issues had been being carried out. I am like, alright. Possibly I will simply… I will throw my hat within the ring, , see what…
00:10:46 Nathalie: I had 5 years of expertise at that time, and most of the people on my group had been twenty years of expertise, twenty 5 years of expertise. I’m like, I’m by no means gonna decide me as a result of I’m simply this child. I do know nothing. I by no means had a administration place earlier than. Right here we go. And yeah. After which I obtained the job. So I ended up doing that for 4 and a half years, took the group by quite a lot of pure disasters that occurred to return by Houston throughout these years, took the group by COVID, , simply quite a lot of massive modifications, monetary modifications within the state of Texas in terms of training. Simply quite a lot of massive, massive issues. Grew the group to have a coordinator. That was me. After which I finally obtained two leads and a secretary, which was… I felt very fancy after I had a secretary. So, yeah, it was a very nice expertise.
00:11:39 Nathalie: After which I… , some stuff occurs, and I simply knew that it was time for me to kinda transition to the following stage of my profession. I gave myself seven days off of labor between my final day as coordinator to regardless of the subsequent stage can be. My husband saved on asking me. He is like, what are you gonna do? And I am like, I do not know. However I additionally advised him, like, I’ve by no means allow you to down earlier than. So simply give me, like, give me these seven days to, like, drink some water, go to Yoga.
00:12:15 Hallie: Not the entire summer time? Simply the seven days?
00:12:18 Nathalie: It was not. It was late August, I believe. Yeah. Early September. And, yeah, on the seventh day, I logged on-line, and I integrated LiveSpeak. After which I simply began doing issues for LiveSpeak. So it has been enjoyable. It has been actually, actually good.
00:12:35 Hallie: That is superb. I like your journey. And I like all of the totally different experiences you’ve that may… you may share with so many with particularly your podcast and, , all of the totally different platforms that you simply’re capable of and also you do shows, shows, and issues like that. So I like that. So along with your expertise within the transition sector, what was your greatest ‘aha’ whenever you had been working with that age group?
00:13:02 Nathalie: I imply, I believe… I do not know if it is most likely the largest one as a result of it is just like the impetus is like, oh, SLPs are wanted right here. SLPs are wanted to work with this inhabitants of scholars. And after I’m speaking about transition inhabitants, I am particularly speaking about, like, 18 to 22. But in addition realizing that transition and the distinctive perspective that speech language pathologists can provide to this inhabitants does not begin at 18. If I had it my approach, Hallie, if I had it my approach, I’d begin engaged on transition related abilities and outcomes in elementary faculty. Like… and never, like, simply, like, randomly or haphazardly, like, very completely. And I do know that we’ve got mandates. Proper?
00:14:00 Nathalie: Like, by 13, we’re beginning to speak about transition and what that appears like. Okay. Cool. We’d like that. And, additionally, what we might be doing is that on the elementary stage, even after we’re taking a look at a pupil or we’re doing an preliminary analysis they usually’re very younger, we’re already sort of conveying how these speech language communication abilities will parlay actually properly into these greater outcomes that we’ve got for our college students in center faculty and highschool and past. So I believe that was… I imply, if that hadn’t occurred, Hallie, if I hadn’t been like, oh, we’re wanted right here, then like, all the opposite stuff that has are available… has come out of LifeSpeak and has come out of my work with the state affiliation, with ASHA. Like, none of that may have occurred.
00:14:57 Hallie: I like that. And particularly as a result of so usually as an SLP within the faculty, we really feel obligated and the stress to show I wanna say to the curriculum, assist college students entry the curriculum. There’s a lot extra that they want past that. And such as you’re simply saying, we want to consider this within the elementary faculty. What different abilities, communication abilities that we’re consultants in, that we are able to present them, that may assist them in a while in life it doesn’t matter what their setting they are going to be in.
00:15:27 Nathalie: Yeah. Abso– and I believe that is, like, the actually phenomenal factor about working within the colleges is that you’re surrounded by a group. So you are not simply Halle the SLP attempting to slay all of the dragons for the scholar that is in entrance of you. You are working with the group. And my hope is that the connection and the collaboration that we’ve got with our fellow instructional professionals is in a spot the place we may be wanting on the child in totality. Proper? We will take a look at the curriculum and tutorial achievement and ensuring, like, we’re getting seat time with the grades and da-da-da-da. Proper?
00:16:08 Nathalie: However, additionally, we’re wanting on the practical efficiency, proper, which is the opposite half of our gig and seeing, like, who’s finest positioned right now to work on these outcomes that will not be phrase for phrase from the curriculum, whether or not you are doing, like, on the core curriculum or right here in Texas. We do not have core curriculum. We have now TEKS. And attempting to determine, like, who’s finest positioned at the moment to work on these outcomes for the children. That does not occur anyplace else. Proper? Like, that is one of many limitations of personal observe for speech pathologists is you are way more restricted so far as, like, who’s in your group. However in a faculty system, in a… if you happen to’re properly staffed and you’ve got good collaborative relationships, that is all there for you. That is a given.
00:17:00 Hallie: So, so true. So what’s the SLPs position with all this?
00:17:04 Nathalie: I believe – my gosh. How lengthy do we’ve got, Hallie?
00:17:10 Hallie: The CliffNotes model.
00:17:11 Nathalie: The CliffNotes are… I believe the SLP’s position actually varies from pupil to pupil based mostly on their present ranges of communication, independence, and accuracy, and their projected, and their outcomes, like what we’re aspiring to. It may well seem like what most individuals consider after we take into consideration speech language remedy companies. It may well seem like a child coming into your workplace closet hallway wherever you are working.
00:17:46 Hallie: Within the toilet. No matter.
00:17:47 Nathalie: In my toilet. Oh, pal. I had a – oh, I’ve a narrative about that, however that is a dialog for a special day. It may well seem like them coming into your house. You might be engaged on some discrete abilities that may shade, will affect, will enhance their communication final result. Proper? So that may completely occur. It may well additionally seem like you going into no matter house they’re in. Proper? So their classroom, their lunchtime, their recess, no matter. And it may well seem like you offering help and steerage and reminders and visuals to assist them observe no matter communication talent is in actual life, within the house that they are occupying. Proper?
00:18:43 Nathalie: It may well additionally seem like an oblique service, proper, the place you’re a coach to the lecturers, the [inaudible], the studying specialist, the job coach, the mother or father, whomever is in that pupil’s bubble. Proper? And you’re offering teaching companies to be sure that the scholar’s communication abilities are supported and that different folks perceive, properly, why is it that they do not talk like X, Y, Z? And also you because the tremendous insightful, properly educated, , properly developed particular person can are available and be like, properly, , that is our proof. These are the potential choices in entrance of us, and here is how we are able to help the scholar. We will present lodging for the scholars, or listed here are some particular abilities we are able to most likely goal to see if that might be… that would meet their communication aims. So I believe you possibly can similar to… the rest, Hallie.
00:19:49 Hallie: Oh, I like that.
00:19:49 Nathalie: It simply is determined by the child and in addition, like, being open and courageous sufficient to belief what . Proper? And go from there. As a result of quite a lot of these items… like, I do know your story, Hallie. Proper? Like, you created Speech Time Enjoyable as a result of there was, like, this vacuum in our trade of helps and actions and supplies for this sort of, like, older inhabitants. Proper? Like, you created this factor. The identical factor was true for me. Like, my first 12 months working in our transition program, I actually went to Google, and I am like, , transition, speech remedy supplies. And…
00:20:33 Hallie: They did not exist.
00:20:34 Nathalie: They did not exist. And so I had to consider my experiences working in submit stroke rehab. I had experiences working in a neighborhood reentry program in Galveston the place you had people are available who had been all submit acute by some sort of TBI, they usually had been coming into this facility that had residences, that had dwelling rooms, that had buses to exit in the neighborhood. They usually had been simply attempting to get reintegrated into the communities as a result of a lot of them had been in hospitals, in, like, nursing care amenities due to all their complicated medical wants. And now these people wished to go dwelling, however there have been security considerations. There have been impartial dwelling considerations. There have been considerations about their potential to be reemployed, that sort of factor.
00:21:34 Nathalie: And so with that sort of expertise, after I was sitting now in a public faculty system with transition age college students, I am like, properly, what did I do at neighborhood reentry? Oh, I helped a shopper discover ways to play poker as a result of there have been… there was a necessity for him to have the ability to cross time past simply watching TV all day. So I labored with my rec therapist, and collectively, we developed a scope and sequence of educating this particular person how you can play poker. And there is quite a lot of communication that occurs inside poker. Tremendous sensible for him. And so I took these experiences after which introduced them into this new house.
00:22:17 Hallie: Find it irresistible. You recognize, my profession, whether or not as a result of I used to be a para whereas I used to be in grad faculty and in highschool, after which I additionally labored in a center faculty and highschool. I obtained myself included on the sector journeys. They had been going out into the neighborhood, whether or not we… one time we they took the scholars on a bus. Like, took the bus. They needed to comply with the bus schedule and took it to the mall. After which once they obtained to the mall, they did a scavenger hunt. Like, I went and helped take part and facilitate. Like, get your self… if you happen to’re in these settings and questioning how you can be finest be utilized, do not be afraid to, like, invite your self to issues.
00:22:51 Nathalie: Completely.
00:22:52 Hallie: Individuals will not essentially assume routinely to ask you.
00:22:55 Nathalie: Oh, for certain. Proper? So I believe, like, that is one factor that I am encountering. Now being out of the general public colleges and attempting to, like, create this bridge between public colleges and life past is dad and mom, neighborhood members, insurers, all these people do not know what we’re attempting to do, which in a method could be very irritating. However one other approach could be very motivating. As a result of I am like, when you see it, you get it. Proper? After which that is simply an enormous snowball impact.
00:23:30 Nathalie: So I had one pupil, after I was again within the transition program, He had simply gotten his job, his very first job at Chick-fil-A, which was very thrilling. He loves Chick-fil-A, so it was an ideal place for him. However his final result so far as entry to his work, we knew on the time that his final result had been… not for him to be, like, driving his personal automobile to work. That simply wasn’t within the playing cards for him. And so we had been attempting to brainstorm, like, what does that seem like for him to have the ability to attend his job as independently as attainable, proper, to make this as sustainable long run as attainable, what does it seem like for him to truly get himself to work?
00:24:14 Nathalie: And so his trainer and I developed a scope the place we did Uber coaching as a result of the place we dwell out right here within the suburbs of Houston, there may be zero public transportation. There isn’t any buses. There isn’t any trains. Everyone has their very own automobile. However there may be Uber and Lyft and ride-share. Proper? And so for him, it was sort of navigating the precise, like, steps of, like, ordering your Uber in your app, ready for the automobile, ensuring you are in your proper spot, that sort of stuff.
00:24:46 Nathalie: However then inside that, like, if you happen to take a minute simply to consider all of the communication stuff that occurs between understanding that you must be picked up by an Uber, throughout strolling by that entrance door of your home of employment, there’s quite a lot of communication that occurs, and he wanted a speech language pathologist to have the ability to break all that stuff right down to establish the place he can be most impartial and establish talent units and steps the place he would want a better stage of help so as to receive his purpose. And his purpose was to get from level A to level B safely.
00:25:23 Hallie: I like that. I hope everybody listening is realizing there’s a lot we are able to do, particularly with our older college students, the transition interval, like, so it is like, you labored in a specialised setting, however typically these college students are simply nonetheless in highschool. Their IEP is sweet at 21. To allow them to be in that top faculty setting from 13, 14 to 21, and also you may need that very same pupil in your caseload. And you must know what to do with them so that you’re making a distinction, making an impression, and in addition serving to put together for his or her world outdoors of faculty.
00:25:54 Nathalie: Yeah. However you understand how I like to consider it, and I… this isn’t one thing that got here from my mind. That is how, truly, we structured the IEPs and this system that I used to be in, which has been very useful to create sort of, like, classes in my head of communication. So one class is employability and or volunteerism sort of based mostly on the person. So simply stopping there for, like, 30 seconds. Like, take into consideration all of the communication abilities that you must be employable after which maintain significant employment. There’s loads. Proper?
00:26:30 Nathalie: After which the following class is impartial dwelling. Once more, 30 seconds. Take into consideration all of the communication stuff that occurs so that you can be… to dwell as independently as you hope for. That is loads. After which there’s recreation and leisure abilities. Proper? So some folks may give it some thought like social connection. However, like, how, , how do you invite any individual over for a party? You recognize, how, , are you able to take part an exercise that does not essentially curiosity you on the time, however you perceive that there is relationship constructing alternatives there. Proper? So, like, how do you undergo that course of? There’s loads inside recreation leisure.
00:27:12 Nathalie: And, actually, like, for lots of my college students, when within the transition program, that is sort of like the place I inserted myself as a result of it was such a really broad sort of setting that was, like, actually, actually significant. I can let you know a fast story, about rec and leisure abilities. So I had a pupil whose final result was for her to dwell in supported dwelling conditions. However her… one among her greatest challenges or greatest boundaries to doing that and the issues that we had been most involved about is that she had a excessive stage of help want when it got here to communication, like, expressing, like, her desires, her wants.
00:27:52 Nathalie: She was fairly good telling us what she did not like, however so far as, like, expressing, like, security, like, her standing of security, that sort of stuff, very, very excessive help want. A part of the requirement whenever you dwell in a bunch dwelling setting is that you simply want to have the ability to not solely, like, comply with, like, a bunch schedule, however there’s occasions within the day the place there’s extra impartial time, proper, the place you need to cross time by your self. There’s not gonna be, like, a bunch led exercise. There’s not gonna be an outing someplace. It is simply sort of like that in between time.
00:28:30 Nathalie: And for this specific pupil, she had a really restricted variety of issues that she did unprompted, and most of it needed to do along with her sitting and watching a film or watching TV, which is nice. That is positive. No downside. And, additionally, there have been considerations about her mobility, about her well being standing, that sort of stuff. So we had been attempting to brainstorm collectively, like, how can we get the scholar to grow to be extra bodily lively and in addition use it as a chance to cross time by herself and in addition probably, like, develop some social connections along with her friends?
00:29:08 Nathalie: So, what I did as a speech language pathologist who will not be a sporty spice. I’m not sporty spice by any technique of the creativeness. I went to our athletic closet. We had an enormous closet with all types of, like, sporting gear, , rackets and balls and hula hoops and that sort of stuff. And I simply took every thing out, after which I simply launched all these totally different actions to her. Proper? And I simply kinda confirmed her how we play, , how you employ the gear or no matter. And she or he landed on these… I do not know what the phrase is, however do you keep in mind, like, in PE class, like, it was like these scoopy like –
00:29:53 Hallie: Sure. I do not know what… there’s gotta be a reputation for it. The scoopy thingies.
00:29:56 Nathalie: The scoopy issues. Proper? And, like, you’ll scoop the ball, and then you definitely throw the ball, and then you definitely the opposite individual catches it with their scoopy factor. It’s extremely technical. I hope folks can see my… I really feel just like the visuals of my arms all the time assist loads.
00:30:09 Hallie: The PE and the scoopy issues.
00:30:10 Nathalie: The scoopy issues in PE. Simply Google it. It is positive. So we landed on that, and she or he appeared… she simply wished to maintain on enjoying. Like, I simply kinda confirmed her. We had a very good time as a result of I absolutely am not very coordinated. So the ball would go flying every approach in each approach.
00:30:28 Hallie: However that is relatable that, like, we’re studying too.
00:30:30 Nathalie: We’re studying. I imply, I am not good at this. Let’s have some enjoyable. And inside that, there’s tons of communication that occurs each verbally and nonverbally. Proper? We, , we… I used to be modeling for her methods of, like, giving reward and, like, smack speaking and alluring any individual else to play and that sort of stuff. Proper? So I share with you that instance as a result of it is perhaps not like speech remedy as, like, we had been educated in graduate faculty and perhaps, like, speech remedy that we –
00:31:03 Hallie: Oh, you were not taking depth tallies of information whereas doing that?
00:31:06 Nathalie: I imply, I used to be already… Hallie. I used to be already having points simply dealing with the scoopy factor within the ball.
00:31:13 Hallie: You did not have a sticky notice in your hip?
00:31:15 Nathalie: No. As a result of th the sticky notice would have –
00:31:18 Hallie: There’s permission, guys. Play with the Scooby factor and let the info slide.
00:31:21 Nathalie: Simply let it go. The place the info confirmed up, although, Hallie, is that after I was not within the room, when the trainer was facilitating free time, proper, free… I don’t wanna say play as a result of, , play, however free pastime, the scholar independently went to the actions closet, picked out the scoopy issues, and she or he approached her trainer eager to play.
00:31:52 Hallie: I adore it. That is superb. That is progress. There’s your information proper there.
00:31:56 Nathalie: I do not know when… to me, quite a lot of occasions –
00:31:59 Hallie: 100% progress.
00:32:01 Nathalie: I imply, I really feel unhealthy saying this as a result of I’m doing a little scientific supervision work on the college right here at Houston. So, , I undoubtedly wanna practice my graduate college students, like, be good information takers.
00:32:11 Hallie: However typically they’ve to simply let it go.
00:32:15 Nathalie: You let it go. To me, it is like the scholar, your pupil in school or shopper or no matter, they’re both gonna do the talent or they don’t seem to be gonna do the talent for lots of transition stuff. Proper? Like, we’re both gonna make our peanut butter sandwich and we’re gonna eat it or we’re not. We’re both gonna do the laundry or we’re, like, ? So I believe, like, that to me could be very liberating as a result of that provides… I really feel like that provides simply me simply much more grey house to, like, actually and, , take into consideration your episode with our podcast, Hallie. It simply provides us simply extra permission to show, to be in that educating house.
00:32:56 Nathalie: And I do know typically, like, the phrase educating rings humorous for some SLPs as a result of we’re not lecturers. So the phrase I like to make use of, actually, most frequently is the phrase coach. In order a communication coach, I can spend time with my pupil to assist her be taught the scoopy ball throwing sport. Proper? As a communication coach, I might help my pupil discover ways to play poker and blackjack as a technique to develop their potential to socially join with others, cross time, have a interest, no matter it’s. Proper? In order that’s how I body my work with this inhabitants of scholars. And this will kinda circle again to, like, the start of our dialog. This sort of perspective may be utilized as younger as three, as a communication coach.
00:33:49 Hallie: I adore it. Thanks so, a lot, Nathalie. The place can everybody be taught extra about you and what you need to supply and about your present podcast collection occurring proper now?
00:33:57 Nathalie: Effectively, the podcast collection is named LeadSpeak. You could find us wherever you wish to stream your favourite podcast.
00:34:06 Hallie: Wherever you’re listening to proper now. Simply go –
00:34:07 Nathalie: Proper now. I imply, simply, like, tune in. Simply click on over. And I’m the… one of many cohosts. So Judy Wealthy is my accomplice in crime. She calls me the sparkly cohost. So I am the sparkly aspect of the podcast. To me, Judy is way more the pedigree type or aspect of the podcast. However collectively, we put our pedigree and our sparkles, and we’ve got this podcast collection that was actually sort of created selfishly out of my must grow to be a greater chief.
000:34:40 Nathalie: After which that is one thing that I’d’ve… I knew I wished after I took that coordinator place, and that did not exist. I wished a SLP particular useful resource to assist me be a greater chief for my group and for the folks I used to be attempting to affect round me. So that is the LeadSpeak Podcast. We’re now doing our third season, which is tremendous thrilling, and we’ve got nice company such as you, Hallie, be a part of us. So doing that.
00:35:09 Nathalie: After which so far as the issues I am doing for transition, I am attempting to channel every thing by my firm, which is named LifeSpeak. And so you possibly can look me up on lifespeakllc.org. And there, you could find quite a lot of the shows I’ve given to SLPs throughout the nation. You could find assets for fogeys, for younger folks which are attempting to attain no matter it’s that they wanna do subsequent. So… and I attempt to do social media factor, however that is quite a lot of work, Hallie. I do not know. I imply –
00:35:43 Hallie: You are doing quite a lot of issues, so it is all good.
00:35:45 Nathalie: You recognize, I attempt to leverage what I can after I can. However that is been one of many actually finest issues about this entire transition in my profession is I’m exercising part of my mind that I did not know existed earlier than. And since I like this house a lot, and I see what can come from it and the success tales that I’ve seen, not solely from the scholars within the colleges, however, like, the purchasers that I see now, I am like, we gotta make… we gotta do that. That is it. Proper? So make it work.
00:36:23 Hallie: I adore it. Effectively, I all the time finish my episodes with a joke. So are you prepared? Why did the trainer soar into the pool?
00:36:31 Nathalie: I do not know. Why?
00:36:32 Hallie: He wished to check the water.
00:36:34 Nathalie: Love. Effectively, I do not know. I imply, I like and in addition testing. Oh. Man, tons [inaudible].
00:36:43 Hallie: I like my humorous dad jokes. Thanks a lot, Nathalie. I actually respect you approaching right here and sharing your knowledge and keenness with all of our listeners right here at SLP Espresso Speak. Hopefully, everybody obtained that jolt of inspiration that they wanted. Go take a look at Nathalie’s podcast and every thing she has to supply. And till subsequent week, everybody, keep out of hassle.
00:37:07 Hallie: Thanks a lot for tuning in to a different episode of SLP Espresso Speak. It means the world to me that you simply’re tuning in every week and getting the jolt of inspiration you want. You could find the entire hyperlinks and knowledge talked about on this episode at my web site, speechtimefun.com. Do not forget to comply with the present so you do not miss any future episodes. And when you’re there, it will imply the world to me if you happen to would take a couple of seconds and depart me an sincere overview. See you subsequent week with one other episode stuffed with enjoyable and inspiration from one SLP to a different. Have enjoyable, guys.
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