Present Notes:
On this sensible episode of SLP Espresso Discuss, Hallie chats with Dr. Danika Pfeiffer—preschool SLP, assistant professor, and early literacy researcher—about how we will assist early writing in younger children, particularly these with developmental language dysfunction (DLD). From understanding why identify writing is extra about reminiscence than letters, to how SLPs can construct in writing observe with out including to their workload, Danika breaks all of it down. You’ll hear easy concepts, methods to workforce up with academics and OTs, and why even small moments of print consciousness can go a good distance. Should you’ve ever puzzled if writing is in your scope, this convo will go away you feeling impressed and able to dive in—one crayon at a time.
Here is what we discovered:
- Title writing is visible recall—not true letter-sound data.
- Letter writing is tougher and desires express, repeated assist.
- Youngsters with DLD observe typical writing growth however at a slower tempo.
- Simple, on a regular basis methods (like sign-in sheets or labeled objects) can construct writing expertise.
- Print consciousness matches naturally into speech periods—no overhaul wanted.
- Casual assessments (paper + crayon!) are sufficient to trace early writing.
- Collaborate with academics and OTs to focus on each language and motor expertise.
- Early writing assist helps forestall greater literacy challenges later.
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00:01:17 Hallie: Welcome to SLP Espresso Discuss, the podcast designed solely for speech language pathologists who work with older college students, grades 4 by 12. I’m your host, Hallie Sherman, your SLP behind Speech Time Enjoyable, the Speech Retreat Convention, and the SLP Elevate Membership. And I am thrilled to carry you conversations, methods, and insights that offers you the jolt of inspiration that you just want. Whether or not you are tuning in throughout your morning commute, on a break in between periods, and even throughout a well-deserved leisure time. I’m right here for you every week. Let’s do that SLPs.
00:01:58 Hallie: Hey, hey, and welcome again to a different episode of SLP Espresso Discuss. Should you’re working with preschool or youthful elementary college students, you have most likely observed that their writing expertise begin sooner than many suppose. I did not notice this till I had my very own college students – my very own youngsters, sorry, my very own youngsters at residence go into kindergarten and their academics are exhibiting me their drawings and exhibiting me how their drawings turned extra elaborate because the yr went on. And I am like, oh, I did not know this was necessary. I assumed these have been simply drawings. I did not notice this was writing. They’re like, no, that is writing. And it was very eye-opening for me. And I felt virtually type of foolish as a faculty SLP not realizing this. However then once more, in my protection, I labored with the older ones for therefore a few years. So I am excited to be speaking as we speak how SLPs can assist early writing growth with my visitor as we speak. Danika, welcome to the present.
00:02:57 Danika: Thanks a lot for having me. I am excited to be right here.
00:03:00 Hallie: Inform everybody listening a bit bit extra about you and your journey to what you might be doing as we speak.
00:03:04 Danika: Certain. So I’m at the moment an assistant professor at Outdated Dominion College in Norfolk, Virginia, however I began off as a preschool speech language pathologist. In order that’s actually the place my coronary heart is. And I’m actually captivated with early language and literacy instruction. And most just lately I have been doing loads of work in early writing for preschoolers and making an attempt to determine how we as SLPs can assist these preschoolers, particularly these with developmental language dysfunction in creating their early writing expertise as a result of we spend loads of time taking a look at spoken language, nevertheless it’s so entwined with written language and we do not obtain an entire lot of coaching about it. So I have been actually interested in how, particularly youngsters with DLDs, writing is a bit bit completely different than their friends and what some clues are that we will search for in order that we all know tips on how to finest assist them.
00:03:57 Hallie: I like that. So let’s dive proper in. How is their writing completely different and what are some clues that we must be searching for?
00:04:05 Danika: So what we all know is that youngsters with developmental language dysfunction, people who have a language impairment that is not defined by any medical circumstances, they develop writing expertise in the identical developmental sequence and identical trajectory as these with typical language, however they’re creating these expertise at a slower price. So, there’s some issues that we will search for. A whole lot of preschool curriculums will deal with identify writing, and identify writing is often the very first thing that preschoolers discover ways to write. There’s loads of emphasis on writing your identify, which is basically necessary.
00:04:40 Danika: However the best way that we strategy writing our identify is definitely very completely different than how we strategy writing letters. And writing letters is basically necessary for, as you understand, creating your early literacy expertise. And so with all of this emphasis that will get positioned on identify writing, generally these early writing challenges that youngsters with DLD have type of go below the radar.
00:05:02 Danika: So what identify writing seems to be like is we’re principally at this degree within the emergent literacy interval, preschoolers are picturing their identify of their head as a photograph, as an image. It is a logogram. So when they’ll write their identify on paper, they’re making an attempt to recollect what that image regarded like of their head, they usually’re writing it down. They are not truly – they do not have the data but in regards to the particular person letters and the sounds that they make. In order that they’re actually simply making an attempt to repeat that picture of their head on the paper.
00:05:36 Danika: Once they get to letter writing, that is truly a extra superior stage. You’d suppose it is sooner than identify writing, however writing letters individually is definitely extra difficult and extra advanced talent. Now they really must have some understanding of the alphabetic precept. They must know the letter identify. They must have some data of the letter sound and have the ability to know the form of the letter and tie that each one collectively.
00:06:01 Danika: So for us as SLPs, what we will do is we will have a look at their identify writing and we completely need them to develop their identify writing expertise, however that is going to be the best one. The one which they might actually use our assist with and our assist with is writing their letters and ensuring that they are getting sufficient observe with that. And in order that’s one thing that I feel is missed loads of instances. And there is a lot emphasis within the classroom, which is nice on writing names, however we need to be sure academics are additionally eager about writing letters, particularly for these youngsters with DLD.
00:06:36 Hallie: So fascinating. I by no means considered it like an image. So you’re feeling like… they know they’re… they know what McDonald’s and Starbucks even.
00:06:45 Danika: Precisely. Precisely. All of these are logograms.
00:06:46 Hallie: They do not have that fundament… they do not… they’re viewing it as an image and never… That is so fascinating.
00:06:55 Danika: It’s. It’s. Sure. And you may’t write phrases proper till you possibly can write letters, till you might have data about these particular person letters. And so to assist youngsters get there and to actually give them a powerful basis for creating these later literacy expertise, we want them to have the ability to write their letters.
00:07:14 Hallie: So fascinating. So as soon as we have already established that they’ve a language deficit and we’re seeing that it is impacting their writing, what will we do then?
00:07:25 Danika: So there’s loads of ways in which we will assist, particularly letter writing, but in addition identify writing. And I feel this will really feel overwhelming ‘trigger it is like, oh no, it is another factor, like we won’t tackle another factor. However these are actually easy issues that we will do, simply including on to our common intervention. So some easy stuff you would possibly take into consideration are when the kid first comes into the room, you may do a easy register exercise the place they’ve to come back in, write their identify.
00:07:55 Danika: You are giving them a writing utensil. You are speaking to them about that is one thing that you could write with, and simply speaking about writing devices. These are various things that you could write with. You would even give them an choice. You already know, this is a marker, this is a pencil, and this is a ruler. Which one can we write with? Which one can we not write with? So simply speaking about writing utensils, what you possibly can write with, and serving to them develop that data of writing print, getting print on paper, that these strokes truly carry some that means. Would not must take loads of time, very fast, and you may combine that in. You would even have them signal out on the finish of your session. Okay, session’s over, let’s signal out, time to return to class.
00:08:35 Danika: Different issues I’ve seen preschool academics do that are actually artistic, they will have identify tags that the youngsters will both write themselves or the trainer has written. They usually have to hold them round to the completely different actions that they do all through the day. In order that’s serving to them acknowledge their identify. It is serving to them notice that, you understand, that is mine. That is tied to me. Kids will often study the primary letter of their first identify first. That is their letter. It is the best one to study. And so serving to them have that identification and type of seeing it all through the day will be very useful.
00:09:10 Danika: In our periods, we additionally, as you understand, we do loads with speech sounds. We use loads of image playing cards. We use loads of objects, speaking about objects with our goal sounds. A easy factor to do right here is simply to pair that with the written phrase. So anytime you might have an image card or an object, have the written phrase with it and draw consideration to that phrase. So not simply the image, but in addition what does this seem like after I write it? What are the letters on this phrase? Whenever you’re speaking about sounds, present the precise illustration of the sound in print and convey their consideration to it. So simply actually drawing their eye to it.
00:09:48 Danika: You possibly can put, particularly once you’re engaged on speech sounds, you may put the print in daring font or colourful font, issues that actually emphasize the font. You can too try this in selecting books that you just learn once you’re studying books with them to observe their sounds. Select books the place the print is basically salient. It stands out. There’s newspapers or there’s chalkboards that draw consideration to the print on the web page. It is colourful print and that provides you one other alternative simply to carry their consideration to it to speak in regards to the letter shapes. So actually easy issues that do not take lengthy, only a couple additional seconds as you are studying or as you are writing. [crosstalk] Another things-
00:10:27 Hallie: [crosstalk] Do you might have favourite books like that?
00:10:29 Danika: Oh, I do. I do have an inventory that I take advantage of in my class. There’s some actually good ones on the market. I may ship it to you.
00:10:35 Hallie: Superior. We’ll put it within the present notes.
00:10:37 Danika: Yeah, yeah, that might be nice.
00:10:39 Hallie: I do know the one yr I used to be in a preschool, that is like many moons in the past, just like the trainer would label every thing within the room and ensure the sunshine… not solely the image, however the phrase was there. After which the primary letter was a distinct shade. Is that like one thing that is nonetheless a great technique or is that irrelevant now? What?
00:10:58 Danika: Yeah, I feel that is – yeah, that is an important technique. A whole lot of academics can have a letter of the week. So generally they will try this to actually emphasize the letter of the week strategy. And the letter of the… there’s truly loads of completely different theories about which letters to show through which order. And that is one strategy is to show a letter of the week. In order SLPs, it is nice for us to learn about what approaches the trainer’s utilizing to show letters, as a result of we will then attempt to incorporate the letters that we’re emphasizing in our personal periods. However what you wanna take into consideration is that if they’re utilizing this letter of the week strategy and there is letters that the kid you are working with already is aware of, then you definately needn’t preserve spending an entire lot of time on that letter. There are some letters which can be simply tougher for youngsters to study. And so you possibly can assist them study these tougher letters in your session. In order that approach they’re getting a bit bit additional publicity than what they is likely to be getting within the classroom.
00:11:53 Hallie: I like that. I like that. You needn’t spend time on that in the event that they’ve mastered that-
00:12:00 Danika: They’ve mastered it, yeah.
00:12:01 Hallie: And I adore it, simply bringing their consciousness to print. It does not have to be the main focus. You do not have to create an entire session round print, however how are you going to incorporate print consciousness into the speech room?
00:12:15 Danika: That is proper. Like perhaps you utilize a kitchen set and, you understand, that is one thing you utilize loads in your periods with the youngsters which can be in your caseload. You do loads of play-based remedy. Then take into consideration what are some methods I can herald some prints to this kitchen. So perhaps I’ve some menus and we order objects. Possibly we now have a grocery checklist and also you make a grocery checklist for them they usually can cross off the objects as they store for them. So simply eager about what are these little issues, giving them notebooks, giving them the prospect to put in writing an inventory, you understand, and simply bringing their consciousness to the truth that as soon as I take this utensil and I put it on paper, it now has that means that, and simply making that connection for them actually explicitly.
00:12:56 Hallie: I like that. And these are nice for like preschool. However once they enter kindergarten, what are some issues that SLPs ought to pay attention to that the expectations in writing and rising literacy, rising writing for kindergarten, what is the distinction there?
00:13:10 Danika: So these youngsters are seemingly nonetheless going to be engaged on these identical expertise as soon as they get to kindergarten. We all know their trajectory simply takes a bit bit longer, nevertheless it seems to be the identical. In order youngsters in kindergarten which have typical language, are beginning to write phrases, particularly these CVC phrases. Our kids on our caseload would possibly nonetheless be engaged on studying these particular person letters. So it is gonna be necessary for us that we’re nonetheless serving to them develop these early letter writing expertise in order that they will work in the direction of writing phrases.
00:13:43 Danika: As you’re employed in the direction of writing phrases, there is a sequence of how phrase writing develops. So what we sometimes see is youngsters will type of begin off with common scribbling. You would possibly see them… you ask them to put in writing the phrase mattress, they may truly draw you an image of a mattress as a result of they’re nonetheless not making that connection of the phrase is, you understand, one thing with letters and an image is one thing with a drawing.
00:14:08 Danika: Then, what sometimes we’ll see first is that they’ll have the ability to write the primary letter of that CVC phrase after which sometimes the final letter with it. So then we have got, okay, we have got B and we have got D, however the vowel within the center is at all times the toughest. So serving to them take into consideration these vowel sounds is gonna be actually useful. After which sometimes what we see is that they fill in a vowel, they know it is some vowel, nevertheless it’s often not the precise one at first. So it’d say unhealthy or bid as an alternative of mattress once they write it. After which we simply assist them to determine these vowel sounds. And lastly, they will determine it out they usually’ll have the ability to get all three sounds collectively. So once you’re making an attempt to determine the place to start out, I’d say begin with these CVC phrases which can be fairly primary, fairly easy, and assist them first establish what that first sound is after which the final sound. After which these vowels within the center would be the trickiest and can want essentially the most assist.
00:15:04 Hallie: You have got any ideas for instructing these center vowel sounds?
00:15:07 Danika: Oh, that is an important query. I’d say how you’d repeatedly educate like all the identical methods that you’ve got in your device bag for instructing vowel sounds. It is simply now drawing it to the printed letter of what it truly seems to be like on paper.
00:15:22 Hallie: I do know… I discovered even with my very own daughter, it was so onerous. And even nonetheless, and he or she’s in first grade now, that like a few of these vowel sounds have… they’ve a number of sounds. [inaudible] letter. Which one is it? And I am like, ah!
00:15:37 Danika: These are difficult. And speaking – I imply, this isn’t one thing we now have to do alone and we should not do alone. Like speak to classroom academics about how they’re instructing these vowel sounds and utilizing those self same methods in your session is gonna be most useful. ‘Trigger that can assist them then once they return into class in order that every thing is type of being taught constantly. We all know this group of kids, they simply want extra repetition. They’ll do it. It is simply going to take increasingly more repetition. So determining what are these methods which can be being utilized in class will probably be actually useful in serving to them generalize these expertise.
00:16:09 Hallie: Do you might have any recommendation and ideas for SLPs to get one, the knowledge from the classroom academics, however then two, tips on how to give them solutions on tips on how to use the helps that we’re doing within the class?
00:16:23 Danika: Yeah, so that may at all times be difficult. So the primary a part of that, how will we get the knowledge? A whole lot of what I have been instructed in my analysis, I do loads of analysis with taking a look at interprofessional observe between academics and SLPs. And what SLPs have instructed me that works nicely for them is doing one thing electronically as a result of everybody’s so busy. So sharing notes or sharing plans lesson plans electronically by Google Docs or some colleges do not permit Google Docs, however no matter system your college permits…
00:16:53 Hallie: Which I feel is loopy by the best way…
00:16:55 Danika: I do know. No matter system you are allowed to have. Having some type of shared folder or you possibly can put supplies in others identical to to e mail, you understand, simply ship a fast e mail and you understand does not have to take lengthy. Some individuals do not like e mail so. I feel the necessary factor is discovering out what these preferences are early on, for those who can, how do you, simply asking that query, how do you prefer to be communicated with? What’s one of the best ways to contact you? In order that approach you are not bothering them. You already know, you are actually eager about your relationship with them, as a result of that is going to be essential and the very first thing that it’s good to actually set up. So asking them, how do you prefer to share data? And that would look loads of alternative ways, however simply honoring no matter that’s. And you may share your choice with them as nicely.
00:17:38 Danika: One other factor that Slps instructed me is I do not like to inform academics what to do, proper? Like that is their area and we must always honor that clearly. That is their classroom. So what SLP instructed me that they do is they simply, once they do a few of their classroom primarily based remedy is that they may simply mannequin issues. They are going to simply do a few of these methods within the classroom surroundings whereas the trainer is there and watching. They usually’re not explicitly telling them it’s good to do that, however they’re exhibiting them some methods that they use. And that approach it is as much as the trainer. Like, do they need to implement this or not? However they’re sharing the knowledge, they’re exhibiting them tips on how to do it, they usually’re opening the dialog to speak about it some extra. So do you need to speak extra about why I preserve emphasizing these letters or why I am modeling tips on how to write these letters and why I am doing it on this approach? So, it is a good type of open invitation with out actually forcing it on the academics.
00:18:38 Hallie: I like that. Are there any like casual evaluation instruments or issues that SLPs could possibly be contemplating to incorporating into their analysis course of to love assess?
00:18:50 Danika: Nice query. Yeah, so that is an space of our discipline the place we actually do not have loads, nevertheless it does not must be difficult. So, the three most important expertise that you’re going to need to assess on the preschool and kindergarten degree are writing their names, writing their letters, after which writing some easy CVC phrases. There’s a analysis protocol. That is what I take advantage of in my analysis. And actually, that is all that I’ve seen that exists for this on the preschool degree. I have never seen it integrated into assessments, which is why I feel we’re not doing it, proper? It isn’t one thing that is repeatedly assessed.
00:19:26 Danika: The evaluation of literacy and language, the ALL, is an evaluation that is a bit bit older now, however has actually nice sensitivity and specificity. It does have some early writing on it for writing letters. There’s I take into consideration twelve, ten to 12 letters that it analyzes. However once more, simply actually small. So if you wish to assess these expertise, I’d say all you must do is give the kid a bit of paper and ask them to put in writing their identify, ask them to put in writing their letters and provides them some phrases and I can share the protocol with you that I take advantage of. It has a scoring system.
00:20:02 Danika: So even simply identify writing on this scoring system is 9 completely different scores on their growth of their identify writing expertise. So 9 completely different scores that you should utilize. And it is good as a result of then you possibly can ask them to put in writing their identify after, you understand, perhaps in three months or in just a few weeks and, and see how they’re making progress. So, it is good trigger you possibly can readminister it as many instances as you need.
00:20:24 Danika: You would additionally simply acquire this data, a few of it from the classroom trainer, as a result of they may seemingly have a few of these assessments that they are already doing. In order that they most likely ask the kid to put in writing their identify fairly repeatedly. They most likely have them signal their art work that they do within the classroom. So you possibly can simply ask to see it and see, are they capable of write their identify? Is that this one thing that I may assist? And I feel simply telling them. Like, “Hey, I may additionally enable you with this.”, like they may not know that we do that, proper? So if identify writing is one thing that they are scuffling with within the classroom, simply letting them know, like, “Hey, I will begin to implement that into our every day routine.” And that approach they know that, that is somebody that they will go to and you may assist assist as nicely.
00:21:08 Danika: So yeah, sadly there’s not loads of analysis instruments, nevertheless it additionally does not must be very difficult. You already know, simply give them a paper and a… piece of pencil and a bit of paper and see what they will do.
00:21:20 Hallie: I often like doing one thing like that as you are constructing rapport earlier than you get leaping into just like the PLS anyway or like self preschool. Like earlier than you soar into formal evaluation, you need to have some play and coloring and it is an ideal alternative to be like… “Hey, write your identify!” Like, “That is my identify!” it seems to be like… I am all about not needing to be fancy to be efficient. So that’s my technique, like a paper and a crayon. Superior.
00:21:45 Danika: There you go. Sure. And beginning that we have been speaking about academics, however beginning this dialog with occupational therapists as nicely. You already know, for those who’re seeing that they are surely struggling, they cannot write any letters, particularly in the event that they’re in preschool. By the tip of preschool, they need to be writing a minimum of about half of the alphabet or extra. And so for those who’re seeing that they actually should not capable of write any letters and all you see is scribbles on that web page, you is likely to be the one who says one thing to the OT, you understand, perhaps they might assist as a result of they’re taking a look at this from a motoric perspective, which may be very useful. There is likely to be one thing with their effective motor expertise that actually wants consideration, however they don’t seem to be eager about it from the linguistic perspective that we now have of, they want these expertise to discover ways to learn sometime. So it is necessary that we’re each on this dialog.
00:22:33 Danika: However once more, the OTs won’t even know, like they may not make that connection that, hey, that is additionally a linguistic talent. They want our assist too, as a result of we have to assist them construct these sturdy linguistic expertise to have the ability to write. So beginning that dialog, and it is likely to be you who sees it of like, “Hey, each time I ask them to signal their art work, it is simply fully scribbles. They can not even write their identify but.” That could possibly be one thing that you just is likely to be the primary one to assist them get that additional assist.
00:23:00 Hallie: Like hand grip, muscle assist.
00:23:03 Danika: Sure!
00:23:04 Hallie: Posture. Hand dominance.
00:23:05 Danika: Sure.
00:23:05 Hallie: I feel they need to know what hand dominance, I feel.
00:23:10 Danika: I feel so. Yeah. [crosstalk]
00:23:10 Hallie: That’d be helpful I feel.
00:23:12 Danika: Yeah. So all of these issues like their postural management, you understand, all of these issues go into writing. So it should not simply fall on us and it, you understand, it does not. There’s others right here that may be useful. So do not suppose that you must resolve this complete drawback. I’ve had SLPs inform me like, “Oh. I do not need to inform my principal that I may also help assist writing as a result of then they’re gonna have me assist all people’s writing.” You already know, this doesn’t must be overwhelming.
00:23:37 Hallie: I at all times used to simply deal with it off to the OT. Handwriting is horrible. Your drawback, not mine.
00:23:44 Danika: Go on. However the factor to bear in mind is that, if we do, if we do begin to consider this stuff in preschool, that is preventative. So there will probably be much less youngsters that must go see the OT for these bigger, you understand, writing paragraphs, placing bigger texts into place. This all begins with writing letters. So we will forestall that in preschool with a few of these early issues which can be quite simple to do. And I feel that is – a minimum of for me, that is very motivating of like okay, we even have a job right here in prevention. And if we will begin to incorporate these small little issues very early on, then they may not want all of these additional helps later.
00:24:23 Hallie: And you are not saying take each child that is scuffling with writing. You are saying those with a language dysfunction.
00:24:30 Danika: In your caseload, sure. Do not go decide up extra youngsters. Simply take into consideration those in your caseload, even these with speech sound issues. Many of those youngsters additionally can have issue. These are loads of the identical expertise and it is simply the identical issues. Identical issues will probably be useful for them. Simply drawing their consideration to print, speaking about these sounds, what they sound like, but in addition what they seem like on paper and tips on how to write them.
00:24:54 Hallie: So, so fascinating.
00:24:55 Hallie: After the CVCs, do you might have any suggestions the place to go after that?
00:24:59 Danika: Oh, that is an important query. My analysis primarily focuses on preschool, in order that’s type of in my wheelhouse. Then you definately’ll see the work in the direction of sentence writing is often type of the subsequent step from there. And a few early research have checked out 4 yr previous’s sentence writing, they usually simply aren’t capable of do a lot, particularly youngsters with DLD, as a result of they’re nonetheless targeted actually closely on these letters. However as they become old, 5, six years previous, then they will work in the direction of writing sentences.
00:25:25 Hallie: And what’s… like, the place does writing fall in our scope of observe?
00:25:30 Danika: So in 2001, ASHA put out an announcement about our position in studying and writing instruction. And it is truly very – there’s many alternative roles that we will play. We simply talked about prevention, and that is one of many issues that it explicitly says, is that SLPs have a job in prevention of writing difficulties, not solely simply spoken language, but in addition written language, proper? As a result of these are reciprocal expertise. If we work on spoken language, we anticipate we’ll see enchancment in written language. If we work on written language, we anticipate that we must always see some enchancment in spoken language, which is so cool, I feel. So it completely is sensible why we might have a job in prevention.
00:26:10 Danika: Additionally serving to with identification of written language difficulties, so performing some evaluation. And that is likely to be simply working with the classroom trainer, wanting on the knowledge they’ve already collected, or doing a few of that ourselves. Additionally offering intervention is of their checklist. So we will explicitly assist. We will mannequin and present the youngsters tips on how to write the letter. For youngsters with DLD, that is actually necessary. Usually creating youngsters, they will type of have a look at a letter on the wall and simply attempt to write it. Kids with DLD are gonna want that additional assist and being proven how these strokes go collectively, what the form of the letter seems to be like. They want a bit bit extra express instruction. So offering that can also be inside our scope.
00:26:56 Danika: Working with classroom academics, others that assist language can also be one of many roles that they define and ensuring that we advocate for writing and written language instruction with these different professionals. After which the final one which they are saying is to assist advance the data base, which principally means we have to work collectively as researchers and clinicians to determine what’s one of the best ways to guage these expertise, what’s one of the best ways to assist these expertise in these youngsters. And I feel that is nice. It is an important reminder that, you understand, we won’t – none of us can do that alone. We each have to work collectively.
00:27:30 Hallie: Any final bit of recommendation or tip for SLPs, you understand, wanting to include extra of this into their observe?
00:27:38 Danika: I’d say simply do not let it overwhelm you. Simply begin small. Choose one baby in your caseload that has a language dysfunction and see what they will do, you understand? Both collect some data from the classroom trainer, from their mother and father. We did not speak about residence literacy, however residence literacy can also be actually necessary. And I’ve had relations inform me in a few of my analysis, you understand, I do not work on writing at residence, that is one thing that academics are supposed to show them within the classroom. However simply bringing that as much as academics, to folks, these are all easy issues that we will do, even simply speaking about print. Placing print within the surroundings for them and bringing their consideration to it’s going to assist them with creating these writing expertise. So do not get overwhelmed. Begin with one baby and simply give it a go and see the way it goes.
00:28:23 Hallie: I like that. Thanks so, a lot. The place can everybody study extra about you and every thing you must provide?
00:28:30 Danika: Yeah. So I’ve a web site. It is simply www.danikapfeiffer.com and that hyperlinks to my podcast. I do a podcast known as About From and With, which is about pursuing a profession in academia, if that is one thing of curiosity to you and getting a PhD. And that’s the place you’ll find all my data. I am additionally on Instagram and that’s @danikapfeiffer.slp.
00:28:53 Hallie: Thanks so, a lot. I at all times finish my episodes with a joke since jokes construct rapport they usually’re very language primarily based. So since it’s summer time, why was the fish embarrassed?
00:29:07 Danika: Why?
00:29:09 Hallie: It noticed the ocean’s backside.
00:29:13 Danika: That is a great one. Good for summer time.
00:29:15 Hallie: My corny dad jokes, guys, are right here each week as a way to steal them, use them together with your college students, construct rapport, and have loads of enjoyable. So thanks Danika, so, a lot. Go take a look at her web site, her podcast, and every thing you must provide. And yeah, every thing will probably be within the present notes, so to not fear. And till subsequent week, everybody, keep out of bother.
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