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On this episode of SLP Espresso Speak, Hallie sits down with Tricia Detig, creator of Considerate Speak and a highschool SLP working with useful resource and life expertise college students. Tricia shares her journey from center faculty to highschool, getting actual in regards to the variations. She talks about constructing rapport with older college students, ditching lectures for hands-on actions, and making remedy significant by means of real-world experiences like working a espresso cart and back-to-back drawing challenges. Plus, she dives into push-in providers, scholar buy-in, and why working with secondary college students is a “hidden gem.” In the event you’re in the highschool world or interested by it, this one’s filled with sensible ideas and actual speak.
This is what we discovered:
- Excessive schoolers aren’t exhausting—they only want you to fulfill them the place they’re.
- Fingers-on beats worksheets each time (particularly for carryover).
- Purposeful expertise like espresso carts educate greater than homework assist ever will.
- Progress seems completely different with older college students—concentrate on life expertise, not simply knowledge.
- College students of their IEP conferences adjustments every little thing (even when they only pay attention).
- Secondary is not scary—it is a hidden gem when you regulate.
- Ask questions and lean in your workforce—secondary SLPs keep eternally for a purpose.
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00:00:00 Hallie: Hey there SLP mates. It’s Hallie right here, popping in with the most effective information ever. My new ebook, Secondary SLP Roadmap is formally obtainable. In the event you’ve ever wished for a transparent, sensible information for working with center and highschool college students, that is it. It’s filled with actual tales, prepared to make use of methods and instruments you need to use straight away. Seize your copy now, examine the hyperlink within the present notes or search Secondary SLP Roadmap on Amazon. After which after all, please do me a favor. When you’re studying it, snap an image and tag me on Instagram @speechtimefun. I really like seeing the place you are diving in. The speech room, the sofa, ready in a physician’s ready room, all of the locations. All proper, prepared? Go seize your copy and let’s make secondary speech really feel doable and enjoyable.
00:00:57 Hallie: Welcome to SLP Espresso Speak, the podcast designed completely for speech language pathologists who work with older college students, grades 4 by means of 12. I’m your host, Hallie Sherman, your SLP behind Speech Time Enjoyable, the Speech Retreat Convention, and the SLP Elevate Membership. And I am thrilled to deliver you conversations, methods, and insights that offers you the jolt of inspiration that you just want. Whether or not you are tuning in throughout your morning commute, on a break in between periods, and even throughout a well-deserved rest time. I’m right here for you each week. Let’s do that SLPs.
00:01:37 Hallie: Hey, hey, and welcome to a different episode of SLP Espresso Speak. I do know my highschool SLPs are gonna love this dialog I am having right this moment with Tricia Detig. Welcome to the present.
00:01:50 Tricia: Hello, thanks for having me. Excited to be right here.
00:01:53 Hallie: Inform everybody listening somewhat bit about your self and your SLP journey to what you might be doing now.
00:01:57 Tricia: Certain, I used to be beforehand within the junior excessive setting for seven years. And I completely cherished center faculty, however I have been working with the highschool inhabitants for… that is my third yr now. And I am cut up between working with like useful resource college students and likewise with life expertise college students, all at the highschool degree. I have been creating sources for older college students since 2016, I consider. I took somewhat break once I went by means of my fertility journey and had my twin boys, however I am again. I am feeling impressed once more. I had a second, a protracted second of time the place I used to be absent or probably not current with creating sources, however I am excited to begin sharing once more and collaborating with different speech therapists.
00:02:50 Hallie: I adore it. So what would you say is the largest distinction while you went from center faculty to highschool?
00:02:57 Tricia: I’d say like the extent of pleasure to come back see you adjustments. They nonetheless get pleasure from it, however it’s a distinct kind of vitality. Like on the center faculty degree, they sought me out lots. Like they had been at all times popping by my workplace, simply actually enthusiastic about speech. And now it is sort of like, all proper, like let’s do it. Or it simply takes lots longer to interrupt that shell as a result of they’re sort of like, particularly the upperclassmen. They’re somewhat too cool for varsity in highschool in comparison with the center faculty degree. So my first yr, I keep in mind being like, man, I actually miss my center schoolers. However now that I am in it and I am used to it, I actually do prefer it too.
00:03:47 Hallie: , all ages group, I really feel like, , may very well be fearful at first. And like all of them have the completely different challenges just like the infants, the infants, , the older ones, larger youngsters, larger issues, but in addition simply completely different objectives and completely different affect.
00:04:04 Tricia: Completely. Yeah. And most of them have been receiving speech since elementary faculty. So that they’re sort of like, actually, I’ve to maintain doing this. And like, they’re nearly beginning over once more, as a result of they’d that rapport with their elementary and junior excessive speech path. And now they’re beginning over with somebody new. And so they’re like, I’ve already performed this for years. And I am sort of over it. So it is a completely different sort of assist and a distinct kind of relationship that they are having to construct.
00:04:32 Hallie: So how do you get them on board and get their buy-in at this age degree?
00:04:37 Tricia: It is robust. I apply plenty of what you preach, like constructing that rapport and simply discovering that connection, shopping for into their pursuits. So simply understanding that I am a protected particular person and that may take somewhat bit longer on the junior excessive degree and likewise their providers look completely different too. So plenty of them, they’re seeing me within the classroom. I am doing like a big group lesson the place I solely have a handful the place I am pulling them out individually or in a smaller group.
00:05:10 Tricia: So simply understanding like I am their advocate and we evaluate like their grades each week. After which I am at all times asking about their extracurriculars or their household. After which I am throwing in themes and hands-on actions simply to attempt to maintain it attention-grabbing and related for them. So I believe it actually will depend on the coed. I finally get them to crack and revel in spending time with me, however it does take lots longer than it did with the junior excessive college students, I’d say.
00:05:46 Hallie: Is that this one thing that you just resolve or is it just like the constructing degree or district degree that decides who’s getting like pulled out versus pushing in? How do you make that call which is suitable?
00:05:56 Tricia: I believe it actually simply will depend on their schedule and the programming at each of the buildings I am at. The particular ed workforce sort of simply instructed me like, these are the courses we want you to push into. After which if these college students do not fall inside these courses, then I have a tendency to drag them from… we’ve got like a supported examine corridor. It is referred to as methods for studying. So I pull my particular person or small group college students from these class durations, however it actually all comes down… I really feel like each constructing does issues so in a different way. I am in a pretty big district and I really feel like all 12 of us or nevertheless many speech paths there are, all of us do issues somewhat bit in a different way, simply relying on the constructing.
00:06:44 Hallie: Do you’ve gotten any ideas for making push in… working with this age group? Like, do you’ve gotten widespread planning time with the lecturers? Do you simply know what they’re engaged on? Like, what do you do getting in there? Do you’ve gotten a recreation plan? How do you do it?
00:06:59 Tricia: No, that is an excellent query. I really feel like plenty of the instances I simply attempt to decide like a language wealthy exercise or a theme. Generally we’ll watch like an interesting video or we’ll decide like a meals theme, as a result of that is at all times very fashionable. So I attempt to simply goal no matter class I am going into, whether or not it is language arts, we’ll focus extra on the vocab and comprehension methods. Whereas I’m going into plenty of social communication courses. We’ve got a examine corridor that is simply centered on social communication, which is very nice.
00:07:37 Tricia: So we’ll both run a lesson related to that or the psychologist and I, we’ll do extra of like a hands-on exercise. We’re actually into like workforce constructing proper now. So I’ve shared on my Instagram, I believe the newest one I shared was we did again to again drawing. So one scholar had a picture and their associate simply had a clean piece of paper they usually needed to describe how to attract the picture. And afterwards we talked about like, the place was the breakdown in communication? What would you do in a different way? And the way do these expertise carry over to the office?
00:08:17 Tricia: Like that is us working right here at college with different folks, like how would this translate to the office? So we discovered that like doing extra hands-on useful issues like which were actually, I’d say simpler. Trigger I really feel like while you’re lecturing on a regular basis, they’re identical to, particularly with excessive schoolers, they’re so checked out while you’re standing up there speaking at them. They’re identical to, there isn’t any buy-in by any means. So on a regular basis speech has been nice and likewise identical to incorporating the palms on actions like which were actually helpful.
00:08:50 Hallie: That is one other approach to get their purchase in is displaying them the way it’s related to their world and particularly like that job readiness piece is so truly goes in highschool such as you’re their final cease wish to the surface world. So incorporating that as a lot as potential. Do you’ve gotten some other issues that you just like to do this?
00:09:08 Tricia: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I’ve had the chance this yr to work with our life expertise inhabitants. So we’ve got a program in our district. We’ve got a espresso cart. It is truly, I do not know why we name it a espresso cart as a result of it is truly like a construction now. It is like they gave us a concession stand. They promote drinks. It was once a cart, however we nonetheless name it a cart for some purpose. However I’ve had the chance to love work with college students whereas they’re serving espresso and taking cash from precise college students and workers members, which has been actually cool as a result of we’re capable of translate these expertise whereas we’re at college, however it’s additionally expertise they will want afterward as properly. In order that’s been actually enjoyable.
00:09:54 Tricia: And I do know plenty of speech paths in my district do lots with like our profession work coaching program. So that they’ll create like micro companies of their buildings and it is only a useful approach to work on communication. Like simply sitting there doing worksheets or serving to with homework, these expertise do not at all times translate. And I really feel like engaged on these extra useful expertise, it is simply a lot extra helpful. And also you truly really feel such as you’re doing one thing significant as a result of I do know with older college students, it is exhausting to see that progress. However if you end up engaged on a few of these life expertise, it is you truly really feel such as you’re making a distinction and also you’re setting them up for achievement for afterward, which has been cool to see this yr.
00:10:42 Hallie: So useful. That is so cool. Do you embrace your college students within the IEP creation course of or just like the IEP conferences?
00:10:48 Tricia: Yeah, our college students sit in on each assembly. Some are extra concerned than others. Some will facilitate the assembly with like a Google slideshow, the place others will sort of simply sit and reply questions that come their method. I believe it simply will depend on just like the case supervisor and what they really feel the coed is prepared for, however they’re there for each assembly that we’ve got for them.
00:11:15 Hallie: And I discover it makes it useful for them to grasp like a really recommending speech. They need to be there to listen to what it’s important to say and what they will be engaged on. So it is not like, I do not know. No, you had been there. It’s best to know.
00:11:29 Tricia: Completely. Yeah. Yeah. These conferences are overwhelming, however it’s a actually good expertise for them.
00:11:36 Hallie: Do you’ve gotten a favourite response when your college students ask, why am I right here?
00:11:40 Tricia: I truly have not gotten a type of shortly. I am stunned. I am making an attempt to consider one. I do not know. Why are you right here? I in all probability have mentioned–
00:11:51 Hallie: I used have on my wall, like, speech is, and I’d checklist vocabulary and all of the various things. like, which one you assume is difficult for you? That is why you are right here.
00:11:58 Tricia: Proper. Sure, completely. Yeah, we do return to that lots.
00:12:02 Hallie: I am like, are you able to say your sounds? That is not the explanation. Like, okay, do we’ve got labored on that? No. Shifting on.
00:12:09 Tricia: Yeah. Yeah. I really feel like at this degree, they’re sort of like, okay, like that is what… [inaudible]. Yeah, I do know I’ve to be right here. I do not need to be right here, however I’m. So I do not actually have these conversations anymore, I really feel. However that could be a actually good level. I additionally haven’t got an workplace. I want I did to love present some visuals, however I actually do not also have a house to do this.
00:12:35 Hallie: That is additionally like, I do not know why I am right here both. I am within the corridor and I am going round.
00:12:39 Tricia: They simply maintain bringing me again right here. However…
00:12:43 Hallie: I adore it. Any final bit of recommendation for somebody who’s possibly new to the highschool setting or is contemplating it? Possibly they had been… urged possibly for subsequent faculty yr, that is perhaps a spot you may need to think about, or somebody who’s simply possibly a brand new grad who has no thought the place they need to go. What would you say to somebody who’s unsure about this age group?
00:13:04 Tricia: I’d say I really feel like older college students are a hidden gem. I at all times say that center faculty is like the most effective place ever. And I do know it is intimidating, however it actually is a particular place. You do not have to be excessive partaking them on a regular basis, however you continue to get to have enjoyable with them they usually get pleasure from coming to see you. I do not know. I really feel prefer it’s value a shot. And ask as many questions as potential. I really feel prefer it’s higher to ask questions than to only attempt to fly by and determine it out by yourself. There’s individuals who’ve been doing this eternally, particularly your workforce members on the center faculty and highschool degree. I really feel like they have been there for thus lengthy. I really feel like individuals who work in with secondary college students keep there eternally.
00:13:55 Tricia: I do not know in the event you really feel that very same method, however I really feel like they only know, they love working with older college students they usually simply trip out their complete profession working with that inhabitants. So do not be afraid to ask questions. And likewise do not be afraid of the scholars. I really feel like they want you. Like at this age, particularly they want that protected particular person to really feel snug with. There’s a lot unknown and uncertainty happening. So identical to having that snug particular person the place they are often theirself through the faculty day, given all of the calls for coming their method. And I do know that was like one million completely different responses to your query.
00:14:33 Hallie: And so they’re simply huge youngsters. Like they is perhaps taller than – I imply, I am 5 foot and a half. Issues like they is perhaps taller than me. That is why I wore heels. [inaudible]
00:14:43 Tricia: Yeah. They may make enjoyable of you, however it’s humorous. You simply must giggle.
00:14:48 Hallie: Like… if you cannot beat them, be part of them. I joined them. I joined them. I am like, sure, I’m quick. You are… nice, you bought language. You described right here like…
00:14:56 Tricia: Yeah, I believe it is humorous. I do not know. I discover them entertaining, working with older college students. I really like the honesty.
00:15:04 Hallie: I adore it. Effectively, thanks a lot. We’ll everybody study extra about you and every little thing it’s important to supply.
00:15:10 Tricia: Yeah, I share plenty of concepts over on my Instagram. It is @considerate.speak. My TPT retailer, I believe you could find me @thoughtfultalk as properly. I used to be beneath earlier… I had a reputation that was very tough to say earlier than. So I am slowly switching every little thing over to Considerate Speak.
00:15:32 Hallie: And we’ll have hyperlinks to every little thing within the present notes. So to not fear. Tricia, thanks a lot for becoming a member of us. I at all times finish my episodes with a joke as a result of jokes construct rapport. And that is why I at all times like to hold on my wall when my college students got here in. This fashion, in the event that they wished to take credit score for it, they might, or they’ll make enjoyable of me for it. So that’s as much as you. You need to make enjoyable of me or use it. It is as much as you. So how do you put together for a celebration in outer house?
00:15:56 Tricia: Oh, I do not know.
00:15:59 Hallie: You planet. Ba-dum ching, guys. Sure.
00:16:06 Tricia: It is a good one.
00:16:08 Hallie: In case your college students prefer it, you may take the credit score for it. In case your college students make enjoyable of you, you may blame me. It’s okay. I can deal with it. Thanks. Everybody go take a look at her Instagram, go take a look at her social media, her TBT retailer. And till subsequent week, everybody, keep out of bother.
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