299: Secondary SLPs Unite

Present Notes:

On this episode of SLP Espresso Speak, Hallie sits down with tech-loving SLP and entrepreneur Mai Ling Chan to demystify one of many greatest buzzwords in our subject—AI. From her early days constructing web sites and launching modern platforms to serving to SLPs ethically combine AI into their every day work, Mai shares how this fast-evolving software could make our lives simpler and improve our medical apply. Collectively, they break down what AI can (and might’t) do, why “hallucinations” aren’t only for sci-fi, and find out how to use it responsibly—with out feeling left behind. Whether or not you’re interested in how AI can assist you intend periods, save time, or just make dinner (sure, actually!), this dialog will depart you feeling empowered, knowledgeable, and impressed to experiment with tech by yourself phrases.

📘✨ Seize your copy of The Secondary SLP Roadmap right here! https://www.speechtimefunpd.com/stf-book 

🎉☕ Rejoice with Hallie on the Digital Launch Social gathering! Save your spot right here: https://www.speechtimefun.com/launchparty

This is what we realized:

  • You don’t should be a tech knowledgeable to start out utilizing AI successfully. 
  • AI can save time and spark creativity—however nonetheless wants human oversight. 
  • Moral consciousness is important when making use of AI in remedy or supplies. 
  • “Hallucinations” remind us to double-check data, not worry the software. 
  • Studying AI is an ongoing course of—everybody’s nonetheless figuring it out. 
  • A supportive group helps SLPs discover new instruments with confidence.

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JOKE OF THE WEEK:

Q: Why did the robotic have a tough time making pals?

A: He had an actual chip on his shoulder.

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00:00:00 Hallie: Hey there, SLP pals, it’s me, Hallie, popping in right here with an excellent thrilling announcement. My model new e-book, Secondary SLP Roadmap, is formally launching and we’re celebrating in model. Be a part of me for a digital e-book launch get together on Wednesday, November fifth at 8 p.m. Jap Time. We could have prizes, video games, giveaways, and naturally, tons of guffaws and inspiration for all my fellow secondary SLPs.

00:00:28 Hallie: It’s completely free to attend, however you want to save your spot. Head to speechtimefun.com/launchparty to register proper now. Should you work with grades 4 by 12, you don’t want to overlook this. It’s once more, speechtimefun.com/launchparty. Seize your favourite mug, deliver your speechy besties and are available have fun with me. I can’t wait to see you there.

00:01:03 Hallie: Welcome to SLP Espresso Speak, the podcast designed completely for speech language pathologists who work with older college students, grades 4 by 12. I’m your host, Hallie Sherman, your SLP behind Speech Time Enjoyable, the Speech Retreat Convention, and the SLP Elevate Membership. And I am thrilled to deliver you conversations, methods, and insights that provides you with the jolt of inspiration that you simply want. Whether or not you are tuning in throughout your morning commute, on a break in between periods, and even throughout a well-deserved rest time. I’m right here for you every week. Let’s do that SLPs.

00:01:43 Hallie: Hey, hey, and welcome to a different episode of SLP Espresso Speak. SLPs are listening to the phrases or letters for that matter, AI throughout us. And also you in all probability have some questions, in all probability have considerations, perhaps fears, perhaps pleasure. And right here we’ll sort out all of it in a fast, temporary overview that I do know you are going to love. Mai Ling Chan, welcome to the present.

00:02:06 Mai: Hello.

00:02:08 Hallie: Let everybody know listening a little bit bit about you and your SLP journey to what you are doing in the present day.

00:02:14 Mai: Wonderful. So I’ve all the time beloved tech and I’m going again to love the beeper stage. I do not know if any of your listeners know what that’s. I do know everyone’s very younger as of late. However I used to be any person who quickly as that got here out, I obtained one and I used to be making an attempt to determine find out how to kind hey, you understand, as a textual content. And that was enjoyable. Truly, even before that, after I was youthful, my uncle introduced me over this enormous tower and like this enormous e-book and he was like, kind all of this code in and see what occurs. And so I did, took like two days on the weekend and the display went clean and it stated, hey. And I used to be like, that is bullshit. I am not going to try this.

00:02:47 Mai: Whereas different folks beloved it, you understand? In order that’s after I knew I wasn’t going to be a coder. I wished extra from that. After which when the web got here out, you such as you’ve obtained mail and the precise like engines like google and issues. I used to be like, Oh, that is superb. And I began my first on-line firm referred to as emommy.com and it was new and used maternity garments.

00:03:06 Hallie: I did not know that about you.

00:03:08 Mai: Yeah. It is a enjoyable truth about me. So I truly realized HTML coding by myself as a result of I used to be scraping issues from eBay and I wished the web site to have sure issues. And I had an eBay account simply sufficient to be harmful, you understand, and I used to be taking like one outfit, like mommy and me outfit and cleansing it and ironing it and promoting it and placing it in a field. And you then’re like, oh, my God. That is a lot work. Trigger it was, you understand, one to at least one correlation. It is not such as you had one gown and also you had all of it completely different sizes. , it is used. So I realized quick how, you understand, that is not the very best mannequin. However we did nicely and I bought that and it was enjoyable.

00:03:41 Mai: After which iPads got here up and I beloved iPads. I am a return scholar. So I used to be out 10 years earlier than I went again for my masters. So that is my chosen subject and I like it. And there we have now, you understand, expertise. so I used to be like, Oh, that is superb. What apps ought to we use? And I discovered that individuals such as you, I imply, you are an OG, had been running a blog about all these apps and you’d take a lot time and do screenshots and all of this. And there’d be like 5 or 6 completely different weblog posts on one app. And I used to be like, geez, this has taken a lot time. How can I make this simpler to seek out?

00:04:12 Mai: And so I created yappguru.com, which was like a Yelp for apps, however we did not have Yelp at the moment. So I used to be a little bit like, I would say new, you understand, pondering that. And we had been making a living till the entire apps went to free with in-app purchases. And it was in a single day. We had been like, oh, no. We had no monetization. However I had made pals with you guys who had been bloggers and who had been niching down. And that is what you have finished so nicely, Hallie, is to essentially area of interest down into the varsity actions and being an actual knowledgeable on this space, studying find out how to make TPT digital paperwork, all of that type of stuff.

00:04:48 Mai: After which what I noticed was how can we transfer this on-line? And so I began with skilled growth of a web based kind of factor. And that was Distinctive Leaders. After which that obtained acquired throughout COVID by a teletherapy firm. And that was actually cool. So all this time I am in expertise. Like I’m working with the coders and did, you understand, doing UX, UI design, simply loving all of this. After which AI begins and it has been round for a few years. And I used to be like, yeah, you understand, I do not know the way we’ll use it but. Trigger it was nonetheless in that coding stage.

00:05:20 Mai: However final February or November, you understand, when it got here out in final February, I used to be like, okay, let’s begin dabbling. And from final February till this 12 months, this summer season, I’ve seen such progress from our fellow speech therapists, like studying find out how to use it, not only for themselves, but additionally clinically. And I really feel like that is the place I have been on the forefront is how will we use this with moral steerage, understanding the ability of what it could possibly do and understanding what it could possibly’t do. And that is actually what the problem is, Hallie, is AI is improbable, nevertheless it’s nonetheless actually in its infancy at this level.

00:05:55 Hallie: Even you offered just lately for our SLP Elevate members and also you talked about the hallucinations and I used to be like, huh? Like what? Like that was new to me. I am like, I did not know this. So there’s so many issues we do not know and we’d like to concentrate on to ensure that us to be utilizing it successfully and ethically.

00:06:14 Mai: Yeah. And thanks for sharing that and to your honesty and transparency as a result of it is good for different folks to listen to the place we’re on this continuum. As a result of I feel some individuals are pondering everyone’s an knowledgeable at this level and that they are left behind. And that’s so not true. And on the opposite aspect of that coin is that issues are occurring so quick that no person is an knowledgeable as a result of daily, there’s like 5 new options and new issues and new ways in which you have to be taking a look at. So it is so good for folks to listen to the place different individuals are on this studying stage.

00:06:45 Hallie: On the fundamental, fundamental degree for these which can be like, okay, how can I simply use it to make my life a little bit bit simpler? What would you say to them?

00:06:54 Mai: , that is an awesome query. I truly had gone up to now into medical apply that I forgot that, oh, I may simply use this to assist me make dinner. And so it is solely been just like the final three months the place I’m truly utilizing it like in dialog and speaking to it. And I even have it type of a little bit extra private than perhaps somebody is likely to be snug with, nevertheless it does not have any HIPAA associated data. However I like dietary supplements and I’ve all of those quirky points like I am lactose illiberal, you understand. I am allergic to caffeine. An excessive amount of caffeine builds up in my physique, I actually get away in hives. However I used to be like, identical to little issues. And so I’ve to decide on the issues that I eat.

00:07:32 Mai: And so I began asking it, like, what are some meals that I could make with all of those parameters? And I am fascinated, Hallie, with the stuff it comes up with. It is unbelievable stuff that I hadn’t considered. And I like straightforward meals. I do not like to prepare dinner. I actually by no means take into consideration meals. So like folks which can be foodies, I used to be like, oh, my God. What do imply you consider meals on a regular basis? So for me, it is identical to to get one thing within the physique. And so it is actually cool.

00:07:54 Mai: After which you may also – like I am telling you, that is my relationship with meals. And so I instructed it that, and I stated, I would like you to be very constructive and inspiring. That was one other factor I stated, as a result of, you understand, I do not take into consideration meals. And so it says enjoyable stuff like, hey, Mai, you may need to take into consideration including a potato to that, you understand, blah, blah, blah. And [crosstalk] I take into consideration potatoes.

00:08:18 Hallie: That is superior. I like it. And as SLPs, we will simply simply use it and say like, hey, I am new to this. Assist me create a articulation listing. Assist me create an inventory, a passage for my college students. Assist me analysis this, like no matter it’s, and simply know that you must… What was that technique you stated with the hallucination factor? Like, is that this correct or is that this the very best you have obtained? Like, what was that technique you –

00:08:43 Mai: Properly, I all the time inform it to ask me different questions, ask me extra inquiries to make clear. In order that’s one factor that I have been including on nearly each immediate that I do. However with the hallucinations, it truly is your mind towards AI as a result of you must catch it. Generally it is like a nuance and you are like, that simply does not sound correct. Like a share or if it is providing you with citations, which I all the time ask for. So we’re speaking about two various things. If I am asking it to assist me with cooking, I do not want citations for that. But when I’m doing… I did a complete deep dive on shopping for the Ioniq 6 automotive, which is an electrical automobile. I knew nothing about it and it made stuff up. There was a few issues. I used to be like, are you able to give me a quotation for that? And it is like, oh, you are proper, Mai. I made that up. Like, whoa. , and I am like, oh, however that, I believed that was fairly essential. Yeah. So undoubtedly, you understand, we’re researchers and scientists. So I might say as soon as in whereas, ask for these and citations hyperlinks, you understand, principally like show it.

00:09:36 Hallie: I like it. What recommendation would you give to somebody who needs to study extra about AI and are not sure of the place to go?

00:09:43 Mai: So I might say study from the folks which can be utilizing it. I am a kind of folks, however I am simply a kind of folks. And different folks have all completely different lenses. And I like that after I… like I’ve gone to different folks’s displays and I realized from them as a result of I am like, oh, that is so cool. I did not take into consideration that. , my strategy, I feel is extra holistic. Like I would like folks to grasp what AI is, you understand, the way it’s infecting the atmosphere and the way you should utilize it, ways in which you have to be occupied with our ethics which can be tied to our career.

00:10:11 Mai: After which I’ve different folks which can be throughout with utilizing it. And so their total session is about you should utilize this program, you should utilize that program. And I am like, wow, that is superb. So I’m not so in-depth with the entire completely different applications and softwares that you should utilize. Extra it is like, okay, while you use these, these are the issues that you have to be occupied with. And these are greatest practices and, you understand, methods to essentially get out of these software program, like probably the most helpful and moral forms of supplies and issues. So it is, you understand, simply hold following folks is what I might say.

00:10:41 Hallie: I like it. The place can everybody study extra about you and all the pieces you must supply?

00:10:45 Mai: That is superior. So it is so humorous. Such as you, I want I had one factor that I do, however I discovered I’ve ADHD three years in the past and that simply explains my life. So I am on LinkedIn. Positively. I’ve a web site, mailingchan.com. However just like the AI stuff I’m, it is onerous to simply put it on the market. So I am not any person who’s posting suggestions and issues. So I am doing displays and I thanks once more for having me, you understand, together with your superb Speech Time Enjoyable members. I’ve had some superb alternatives, like with LA Unified Faculty District and simply these different associations and issues all around the nation. And in order that’s the place I have been actually having fun with, you understand, with the ability to connect with lots of people directly.

00:11:22 Mai: So I am sorry to say I haven’t got a e-newsletter or that I am dripping AI. however we do have the Fb group. So it is free and it has 4 admin. So it is myself, Leila Denna Staiger, Lavelle Carlson, and Dr. Michelle Boisvert. And all of us come at it from completely different lenses as speech pathologists. So it is referred to as AI for SLPs. You simply search that in Fb and we simply began a few weeks in the past and we’re rising. However I like the forms of posts that we’re doing in there. So it is undoubtedly the find out how to use it, but additionally plenty of evidence-based analysis questions, sizzling subjects. It is only a actually nice combine.

00:11:57 Hallie: I like it. So I all the time finish my episodes with a joke. I believed this one can be acceptable. Why did the robotic have a tough time making pals?

00:12:05 Mai: Ooh, that is a very good one. I do not know why.

00:12:06 Hallie: He had an actual chip on his shoulder.

00:12:10 Mai: Ah, that is nice. Good.

00:12:11 Hallie: Till subsequent week, everybody, if you wish to study extra about AI, you may also try Mai’s [inaudible] that she did for the SLP Elevate members, in the event you’re a member. In any other case, and she or he’ll be presenting at our November eighth Speech Retreat. So keep tuned to that as nicely. She will not be speaking about AI, however you undoubtedly don’t need to miss her superb vitality. So undoubtedly test her on the market. And till subsequent week, everybody, keep out of bother.

00:12:42 Hallie: Thanks a lot for tuning in to a different episode of SLP Espresso Speak. It means the world to me that you simply’re tuning in every week and getting the jolt of inspiration you want. Yow will discover the entire hyperlinks and data talked about on this episode at my web site, speechtimefun.com. Remember to comply with the present so you do not miss any future episodes. And when you’re there, it could imply the world to me, in the event you would take a couple of seconds and depart me an trustworthy overview. See you subsequent week with one other episode stuffed with enjoyable and inspiration from one SLP to a different. Have enjoyable guys.

00:13:23 Hallie: Hey there SLP, I’ve a fast query for you. What in the event you may have only one e-book in your shelf that really will get the challenges of working with center college and highschool college students? Properly, it is right here. Properly, truly the pre-order is right here, however hey, I am so excited to let you understand that my model new e-book, The Secondary SLP Information is accessible for pre-order. And while you pre-order, you get an unique bonus that you simply will not wanna miss.

00:13:53 Hallie: It’s filled with actual discuss methods, fast suggestions and inspiration that you should utilize together with your center college and highschool college students or all 12 months lengthy. That is the right e-book for a e-book membership, a grad scholar group, or simply flipping by while you’re caught and in a IEP writing spiral. So head to speechtimefun.com/preorder or head to my Instagram and ship me a DM with the phrase pre-order and I’ll ship you the hyperlink so you possibly can pre-order now and I can’t wait so that you can get your palms on this e-book in November however the sooner you seize it the higher the bonus.

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